Stop with the cheap shit
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99.99% of the "graphic designers" on here aren't even worthy of calling themselves graphic designers because they are horrible.
Most of the $10 templates are utter pieces of shit and are uncodable/unusable.
Real webmasters will recognize quality work, and will pay what it is worth.
There isn't much competition around here for web design/graphic design.
Most of the $10 templates are utter pieces of shit and are uncodable/unusable.
Real webmasters will recognize quality work, and will pay what it is worth.
There isn't much competition around here for web design/graphic design.
he's still kicking
To be honest no one is going to listen to this. Sure it does piss me off when some fag opens up PS for the first time, reads a tut online and creates a basic template and wants to sell it when it looks like shit but this will keep happening in the future. I myself am not a graphic designer, I didn't go to school and got some shitty degree in it. In my opinion you are considered a designer when you get your fucken degree in it. You can't just "own" Photoshop and make some bullshit to be called a "designer" it doesn't work like that. I do work at a low rate because its a hobby not a real job just some money on the side but what I can say imo is that I don't suck at what I do.
My 2 cents.
My 2 cents.
nexuslivezz
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LMAO..I just pissed off, What u said..finally this guy has been compared to those people..lol..did timtamboy63 really dictated something now??
..nvm@Happy<3
And timtamboy63,there will be a two ways always...Either Solve it or Skip it..
Solve it -Get Compromise and Stay competitive..
Skip it - Just as Loget Said,there r many places to Sell your Grafix..
Art is in the eye of the beholder.
Stop complaining about other's work as I am sure many hate yours. There is no right or wrong and the true value of art is in whether someone else likes it.
So if someone spends $10 for it they must like it.
No spends $40 for yours means they don't like it. (enough)
Stop complaining about other's work as I am sure many hate yours. There is no right or wrong and the true value of art is in whether someone else likes it.
So if someone spends $10 for it they must like it.
No spends $40 for yours means they don't like it. (enough)
timtamboy63
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Its not competition im annoyed at, Its the shhitty competition. Its the people who open up photoshop for the first time, and sell their stuff for almost nothing. ANd its those webmasters that can't tell the difference between good graphics and bad graphis. THey then expect us to lower our prices.
True there are some people on here who recognize good graphics and are willing to pay for it, but unfortunately this number is diminishing.
EDIT: i'm not really talking about my stuff, as I hardly sell on here anyway, I'm just commenting on the state of things
True there are some people on here who recognize good graphics and are willing to pay for it, but unfortunately this number is diminishing.
EDIT: i'm not really talking about my stuff, as I hardly sell on here anyway, I'm just commenting on the state of things
i charge what i see fit. if i dont get the job, well thats life. You cant win them all, and trying to adjust your price just so you get the job may be ok for some, but not for me.
Long and short, its nobody's business what i charge, to whom i charge, except mine . Pretty soon people will recognise your quality of work, whether good or bad, and be willing to pay X dollars based on your prior reputation.
If your not getting work, its nobody elses fault but your own. You can either take that piece of advice and cry/flame, or take it on board and do something about it. Same goes for threads when people ask for bumps/etc. Instead, why not ask yourself WHY its not popular...?? 8-)
Long and short, its nobody's business what i charge, to whom i charge, except mine . Pretty soon people will recognise your quality of work, whether good or bad, and be willing to pay X dollars based on your prior reputation.
If your not getting work, its nobody elses fault but your own. You can either take that piece of advice and cry/flame, or take it on board and do something about it. Same goes for threads when people ask for bumps/etc. Instead, why not ask yourself WHY its not popular...?? 8-)
Dude...your on a warez forum. If that's not bad enough and you still believe people who want shit for free should pay you full price; the members here are (mostly) 9 year old Indians begging for pennies to upload...
You will not be getting full price here loltimtamboy63
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Haha fair enough. Thats probably the reason why i switched to doing graphics for people i know irc, waay better money :P
Well, most people here you are saying "Cheap Shit" go for GFXers who do their work for less money. (This is a fact).
I mostly do GFX work free for people. I charge the new users, and after their 2nd request, I basically do their work for free and when then try to pay, I tell them, no need, if they wish, they can donate.
So this makes some sense.
Selling a basic 1 page simple PSD for 10$ is good. If it gets sold, then the designer gets some motivation to try further and make a better designs. Its like the more you design, the more you excel.
I always suggest beginners to start up as free designers and help other people with their new skill [thats what I did]. Once they get enough practice, then can work cheaper to train themselves to design in professional manner. As you are cheap, you get more orders. So you learn more.
Now, when you get highly skilled enough and be known by many people, you can raise your price to just any above $100, no one would complain about it.
Just my 2cents.
Start out with free and raise your price as you improve
I mostly do GFX work free for people. I charge the new users, and after their 2nd request, I basically do their work for free and when then try to pay, I tell them, no need, if they wish, they can donate.
So this makes some sense.
Selling a basic 1 page simple PSD for 10$ is good. If it gets sold, then the designer gets some motivation to try further and make a better designs. Its like the more you design, the more you excel.
I always suggest beginners to start up as free designers and help other people with their new skill [thats what I did]. Once they get enough practice, then can work cheaper to train themselves to design in professional manner. As you are cheap, you get more orders. So you learn more.
Now, when you get highly skilled enough and be known by many people, you can raise your price to just any above $100, no one would complain about it.
Just my 2cents.
Start out with free and raise your price as you improve
Well, its like, they are in for some fun, and nothin seems to be wrong in asking for even pennies for the time they waste on uploading shit and in return your warez forum gets visitors from basically katz.Dude...your on a warez forum. If that's not bad enough and you still believe people who want shit for free should pay you full price; the members here are (mostly) 9 year old Indians begging for pennies to upload...
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nvm
lol BlaZe you're too close to the joke. Take a step back and you will laugh
FancyPants
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Not true. i paid 35 for a bunch of awesome buttons and avatars from flash and 15 to elio for an awesome logo. I payed someone 5 dollars to make a logo and it was horrible.
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