So yeah I got disabled by Fileserve
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i keep seeing you saying Fileserver (Ricky) should be defending you against DMCA complaints? why exactly do you think that? He is running a company. I am not a uploader myself,and have never uploaded even when i was for monitary gain,that isnt warez at all making money from files distrubted free on the internet via news servers and torrents and even IRC. THey have the right to disable accounts that have had dmca complaints to protect their company imo.
'Seduce', 'entice', 'encourage' ..... you take your pick.
And they encourage you to upload illegal stuff, because they advertise /have a thread on WJ which is solely aimed at warez uploaders.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Perhaps these filehosts should limit themselves to advertising on holiday photo sharing sites or poem creators.
Don't you get it .... don't encourage warez uploaders to upload if you can't take the consequences of DMCA notices.
And they encourage you to upload illegal stuff, because they advertise /have a thread on WJ which is solely aimed at warez uploaders.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Perhaps these filehosts should limit themselves to advertising on holiday photo sharing sites or poem creators.
Don't you get it .... don't encourage warez uploaders to upload if you can't take the consequences of DMCA notices.
Fileserve encourages you to upload but didn't "seduce" you to upload anything illegal
CloudShadow
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Oh for heavens sake stop this noobness. If FS really wanted to stop you from uploading warez they'd ban your account the moment you upload any file, but they dont do that. Why do you think they remove files? BECAUSE THEY WANT TO STAY LEGAL, if they dont removed DMCAed files they will be sued.
If they dont delete the reported files and accounts they WILL BE SUED and loose THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS by fighting court battles.
Fileserve Knows what we upload and they dont care, but to stay legal, to stay up, to stay alive they need to comply with the authorities.
Lets say a company sends a notice to your home to stop using warez othewise you will be sued, what will you do?
Last but not least, everyone here needs to realize this, what we do is illegal, its against the law and a crime. So you have to bear with all this as this is just one of the many disadvantages of uploading.
If they dont delete the reported files and accounts they WILL BE SUED and loose THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS by fighting court battles.
Fileserve Knows what we upload and they dont care, but to stay legal, to stay up, to stay alive they need to comply with the authorities.
Lets say a company sends a notice to your home to stop using warez othewise you will be sued, what will you do?
Last but not least, everyone here needs to realize this, what we do is illegal, its against the law and a crime. So you have to bear with all this as this is just one of the many disadvantages of uploading.
Noobness? Who's the noob here?
You can either be legal or illegal. But don't encourage warez uploaders to upload illegal stuff and expect to be able to stay 'legal'. The moment you have warez on your server you're illegal. Following up DMCA notices doesn't make you legal.
You obviously have no clue about the word 'legal'. It's like asking someone to kill another person and expect that it's legal until the killer has been identified.
I kindly request WJ's moderators to remove any thread of a filehost who has an article in its TOS where they state that uploading warez can be punishable by cancellation of the account.
You can either be legal or illegal. But don't encourage warez uploaders to upload illegal stuff and expect to be able to stay 'legal'. The moment you have warez on your server you're illegal. Following up DMCA notices doesn't make you legal.
You obviously have no clue about the word 'legal'. It's like asking someone to kill another person and expect that it's legal until the killer has been identified.
I kindly request WJ's moderators to remove any thread of a filehost who has an article in its TOS where they state that uploading warez can be punishable by cancellation of the account.
CloudShadow
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You dont get my point do you, Yes they have an illegal service, YES they are doing wrong. But should they admit that and get shut down? Read my post again, to keep operating they need to comply with the authorities. How is killing even remotely related to this.
So lets say EA or Microsoft told fileserve to delete the user's account or they will be taken to court. Please tell me what fileserve should do in this situation as you have such a good grasp on the concept of legality?
So lets say EA or Microsoft told fileserve to delete the user's account or they will be taken to court. Please tell me what fileserve should do in this situation as you have such a good grasp on the concept of legality?
This proves you have no knowledge or a clue about the working of judicial proceedings.
EA or Microsoft will never ask a filehost to remove a user's account, because simply they don't have the right to do so.
They can only go to an ISP, ask who the offender is and then prosecute this user directly.
Copyright owners (or their representatives) have only the right to make a DMCA notice to the host.
EA or Microsoft will never ask a filehost to remove a user's account, because simply they don't have the right to do so.
They can only go to an ISP, ask who the offender is and then prosecute this user directly.
Copyright owners (or their representatives) have only the right to make a DMCA notice to the host.
CloudShadow
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hm... Last time i checked EA and Microsoft held copyright to shitload of things, so they dont have the right to complain when we pirate say Gears of War or Microsoft Windows Xp?
If that wasn't the case, why was i shown a DMCA letter from Microsoft when i shared Gears of War. :p
lol, anyway, lets assume here that microsoft and EA dont own the copyright of any software( lol again) , what happens when an actual copyright holder complains to fileserve and asks for account deletion? What should be their response?
If that wasn't the case, why was i shown a DMCA letter from Microsoft when i shared Gears of War. :p
lol, anyway, lets assume here that microsoft and EA dont own the copyright of any software( lol again) , what happens when an actual copyright holder complains to fileserve and asks for account deletion? What should be their response?
masterbator
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well if that's the case, then fileserve should've only deleted all of the uploader's files
there's no need to disable the whole account for that reason.. unless fileserve did get irritated by the uploader who somehow managed to snatch $140 per week at their expense lol :D
there's no need to disable the whole account for that reason.. unless fileserve did get irritated by the uploader who somehow managed to snatch $140 per week at their expense lol :D
CloudShadow, I give up upon you. You simply don't get it. Please read my posts again and again. Maybe, just maybe, you'll understand where I am talking about.
There is no reason to delete all of the user's files, only the ones which received a DMCA notice.
Come to think of it, how did the Germans fine Rapidshare 34 milliion Euros for copyright infringement if the best copyright holders can do is file a DMCA letter? http://mashable.com/2009/06/24/rapidshare-34-million/
Both Sniffdog and Cloudshadow are right. I think it all depends on which country the filehost is in. Germans may think filehosts are obligated to enforce copyrighted materials while the U.S. law, for examplem may say otherwise. Chinese law may say, "Go ahead, make my day!"
Both Sniffdog and Cloudshadow are right. I think it all depends on which country the filehost is in. Germans may think filehosts are obligated to enforce copyrighted materials while the U.S. law, for examplem may say otherwise. Chinese law may say, "Go ahead, make my day!"
CloudShadow
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Forget all that, its kinda pointless to argue with you on copyright issues when you say that microsoft cannot file a complaint for copyright infringement.
Please answer this very simple question.
If i as a copyright holder tell fileserve to remove the account of a person who has uploaded copyrighted material and if fileserve doesn't comply with my request i will sue them for a couple of million dollars.
What should fileserve do? I dont care about anything else, please tell me, what should be fileserve's response to this situation?
Yeah, it's kinda useless, because I have never said that. What I said is that a copyright owner cannot demand from a filehost to delete a user's account or take action against a particular user. They can ONLY demand the removal of the file(s) in question.
How can Microsoft know who uploaded the file?
Period.
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