Notification System

[K3V]

If that's aimed at me its Geo's site Ted.ph Think it runs vBulletin 4

 

[Rick]

Yeah the question was for you K3V, sorry. And ok thanks. I'll have to check it out for myself. #curious.

 

[To0]

Notification system can be added via various mods being installed on to the site which would affect the DB. It can surely be done but it would affect us seriously

Stuff like Who Quoted me? UserTag? And other such mods can be compiled into one notification system but it would affect the DB very seriously unless and until JmZ or someone else finds a way around it

What is all this talk about performance issues?

WJ is one of the most under modded forums ever. A few modifications could easily be implemented without noticeable affecting performance.

I like these kinds of requests. It's the future.

 

[shadow.prx]

Well this would need to be some sort of ajax request that refreshes every min or so to check for new quotes likes etc.

If say 100 people are on thats 100 ajax requests hitting the server ajax requests are not massive loads but it can add up, Plus you have to combine the shoutbox refreshes and latest post refreshes plus people actually using the forums.

I countered this problem by building a time out if the user does not move his mouse or press any keys in a time frame the ajax requests stop till they become active again. That saved me bandwidth and there were far less requests hitting the server from people who have the site open in a tab but are not active.

Facebook does the same thing (its where i got the idea from )

If done correctly of no this would not be heavy at all But it would add to the database size unless its cleaned regularly.
Just sayin..

 

[Rick]

Where there is a will, there is a way.

 

[Djlatino]

Too bad there's no will.

 

[Exel]

XDA-Developers has mentions / quotes as well.

 

[Mind Freak™]

I surely have a will for it but not the knowledge anyhow i would try to get JmZ to work on it if possible and if it all goes well it might be included in the next overhaul or upgrade which is due in the coming weeks.

 

[pi0tr3k]

What is all this talk about performance issues?

WJ is one of the most under modded forums ever. A few modifications could easily be implemented without noticeable affecting performance.

I like these kinds of requests. It's the future.

Seriously? What about wbb? :p

 

[dark_hunter]

XDA-Developers has mentions / quotes as well.

Nice circle bro. A+ :D

 

[Loonycgb2]

What is all this talk about performance issues?

WJ is one of the most under modded forums ever. A few modifications could easily be implemented without noticeable affecting performance.

I like these kinds of requests. It's the future.

The point being made here is the fact that as it is you have to load the topic and user information which is read all at once plus being loaded multiple times a minutes by over a hundred users causes a heavy sql query.

Now imagine that and a mod which reads from the db every 2-3 seconds for over 100 users. Now that would cause the db to stress as vbulletin has a shitty sql format and causes high loads without the queries being cached by a external cache server.

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What JmZ said is true, but if wjunction wants to be a real webmaster forum why not start being one?

Being webmasters you learn how to offload the heavy stuff and load balance servers. Now im pretty sure wjunction is on a server with multiple other sites, but you can easily load balance this site and not ever need the use of cloudflare again even if there is a ddos.

Plan A:

• Use either 2 VPS/Dedicated servers
• Place wjunction forum and http server (nginx or lighttpd) on a single vps/dedi
• Place MySQL (Mariadb, Percona) on the other vps/dedi, Also add in sphinx for ultra fast low resource searches
• Both vps/dedi would have to be on the same network to take advantage of the local highspeed transfers to keep both servers talking to eachother at a good speed.

The reason Plan A would work well is because MySQL can be heavy duty, but if fully optimized to be used as a dedicated server then you will not see a load over 2-5% from a forum like wjunction.
Also this would protect wjunction from slow downs and possible ddos's if correctly configured.


The cost of this would most likely not be over 50$ a month so to say if this forum wants to grow and add great features then its time to think like a webmaster and grow....

 

[Apathetic]

The point being made here is the fact that as it is you have to load the topic and user information which is read all at once plus being loaded multiple times a minutes by over a hundred users causes a heavy sql query.

Really? Because I think otherwise. And it's not like WJ has a million of active users for the administrators to worry about that at the moment.

 

[JmZ]

ah you guys are still talking about this.

i have yet to look into it, been a busy man lately but will put it on my todo list.

 

[DLow]

I wonder what the specs of the current WJ server actually are ?


You guys are making things to hard on your selfs imo

 

[Zero]

Not to be the jackass of the conversation. But you (the staff) keep complaining about DB this DB that... With the amount of money you guys make of ADS threw out the forum am sure some of that could be put maybe towards a better server/s. Given this is a legit forum license (witch am sure it is) and is a legal site. Finding an appropriate setup shouldn't no be an issue at all.

 

[DLow]

^^ that's what I'm saying

 

[MrOSX]

Not to be the jackass of the conversation. But you (the staff) keep complaining about DB this DB that... With the amount of money you guys make of ADS threw out the forum am sure some of that could be put maybe towards a better server/s. Given this is a legit forum license (witch am sure it is) and is a legal site. Finding an appropriate setup shouldn't no be an issue at all.

Not that I dont agree.

Just that if we are containing 18+ adverts and warez stuff then we still have to be careful with onshore hosts.

 

[msk19994]

18+ adverts WHERE ?

 

[Zero]

He meant 18+ ads displayed.

 

[DLow]

Not that I dont agree.

Just that if we are containing 18+ adverts and warez stuff then we still have to be careful with onshore hosts.

IMO, I would never have WJ on a server with other web sites, It would lead to more security concerns, more resource usage and over all less performance.

But thats just me