Rapidshare now give unlimited Traffic?
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All the new hosts are crappy. Look at them - they don't and they never will have the level of infrastructure that Rapidshare has. Rapidshare has survived the test of time - that is something none of these new hosts will survive.
Look at hotfile. Right before your eyes it went up and came crashing down. The hosts you now put your trust in so much (fileserve, filesonic, etc etc) are headed along the same route. They will go down. It is only a matter of time. When they're down - the only strong host still standing will be Rapidshare.
Do you guys seriously think Rapidshare ever depended on you cashwhores for its survival? If that was the case, Rapidshare would have gone Hotfile's route with a serious and a rapid decline in usage. Yet, that is not the case. Rapidshare is still strong, still innovating, still online. And it will stay that way. Rapidshare does not depend on warez uploaders for their survival. And if you looked at their news page, you'd know they've progressed much more now than they would have back when they had cashwhores uploading to them.
Having said that, disagree with me all you want. The truth, unfortunately, is more than obvious to anyone who isn't crazy enough to just conclude based on statistical numbers. Time, (un)fortunately, will show you which filehost is the strongest out there.
Look at hotfile. Right before your eyes it went up and came crashing down. The hosts you now put your trust in so much (fileserve, filesonic, etc etc) are headed along the same route. They will go down. It is only a matter of time. When they're down - the only strong host still standing will be Rapidshare.
Do you guys seriously think Rapidshare ever depended on you cashwhores for its survival? If that was the case, Rapidshare would have gone Hotfile's route with a serious and a rapid decline in usage. Yet, that is not the case. Rapidshare is still strong, still innovating, still online. And it will stay that way. Rapidshare does not depend on warez uploaders for their survival. And if you looked at their news page, you'd know they've progressed much more now than they would have back when they had cashwhores uploading to them.
Having said that, disagree with me all you want. The truth, unfortunately, is more than obvious to anyone who isn't crazy enough to just conclude based on statistical numbers. Time, (un)fortunately, will show you which filehost is the strongest out there.
Nobody can say that Rapidshare is worst
Rapidshare will be the Godfather of hosting
Before .com there was rapidshare.de
thats how it all started for them.
I don't think there were any comptitiors against them because they started this biz as google started search engines...etc.
Rapidshare will be the Godfather of hosting
Before .com there was rapidshare.de
thats how it all started for them.
I don't think there were any comptitiors against them because they started this biz as google started search engines...etc.
^this.
Other filehosts should take this as lesson. Don't fuck with your affilates.
I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
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lol at lifetalk reasoning.... hilarious
You really believe at what you said? That ANY file-host isn't dependant on warez?
What do you think, what creates traffic and downloads on any file-host? Text files? Lyric?
What exactly is there to be shared, that can produce lots of traffic, sales, money, and it is legal at the same time? Name few things...ok, name one.
Don't be funny, Rapidshare became popular thanks to warez, and it will remain, because of that. But they are falling down slowly, because habit left. They were number one for 4-5 years. Lots of people bought long time accounts, and use them slowly. That is why rapids are invented. To use them slowly. To prevent unlimited downloading. Now, when they emptied their database, and most of their servers cost more to be turned on, than produce capital, they are attracting users back again with unlimited download. It is all part of the strategy, game for clevers. Hats off, they took shitload of money, thanks to warez. But ever since majority of warez uploaders abandoned them since they can't even keep their account, because they are terminating them, nothing left for uploaders at all.
That's why they kept all files I uploaded, on their servers, to produce more sales, while I got 16 accounts terminated.
You really believe at what you said? That ANY file-host isn't dependant on warez?
What do you think, what creates traffic and downloads on any file-host? Text files? Lyric?
What exactly is there to be shared, that can produce lots of traffic, sales, money, and it is legal at the same time? Name few things...ok, name one.
Don't be funny, Rapidshare became popular thanks to warez, and it will remain, because of that. But they are falling down slowly, because habit left. They were number one for 4-5 years. Lots of people bought long time accounts, and use them slowly. That is why rapids are invented. To use them slowly. To prevent unlimited downloading. Now, when they emptied their database, and most of their servers cost more to be turned on, than produce capital, they are attracting users back again with unlimited download. It is all part of the strategy, game for clevers. Hats off, they took shitload of money, thanks to warez. But ever since majority of warez uploaders abandoned them since they can't even keep their account, because they are terminating them, nothing left for uploaders at all.
That's why they kept all files I uploaded, on their servers, to produce more sales, while I got 16 accounts terminated.
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Like lifetalk said, in the longrun RS will be the only one left standing. All the other hosts that pay out their arses to retain users will have fallen pray to some form of litagation from the US. RS have actually been to court and won, on various occasions.
Its only a matter of time before Fileserve and Filesonic go the way of Hotfile. And when that happens and you're all complaining, I will be enjoying my RS account.
Its only a matter of time before Fileserve and Filesonic go the way of Hotfile. And when that happens and you're all complaining, I will be enjoying my RS account.
@ okone, megaupload and mediafire will be long after Rapidshare dies....
You see, uploaders are the one who dictate, which file-host will live, and which will die, not downloaders.
(and DMCA police too :P )
No uploaders-no files, no files-no traffic, no traffic-no moneyz....
You see, uploaders are the one who dictate, which file-host will live, and which will die, not downloaders.
(and DMCA police too :P )No uploaders-no files, no files-no traffic, no traffic-no moneyz....
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First of all, the reason MediaFire will survive is because they have nvr rly been a popular choice for Warez.
Secondly, you can't say for certian what the the future holds for Megaupload as they are one of the sites that will loose their domain first if the new measures are brought through in the US.
And thirdly, uploaders clearly don't dictate which host lives because as we have been saying (quite a few times in this thread), people still buy accounts there. I know this because I run a site where RS links are mandatory and people praise us for using them. If downloaders still pay for accounts, it won't die anytime soon, and RapidShare are in no shortage of customers.
Secondly, you can't say for certian what the the future holds for Megaupload as they are one of the sites that will loose their domain first if the new measures are brought through in the US.
And thirdly, uploaders clearly don't dictate which host lives because as we have been saying (quite a few times in this thread), people still buy accounts there. I know this because I run a site where RS links are mandatory and people praise us for using them. If downloaders still pay for accounts, it won't die anytime soon, and RapidShare are in no shortage of customers.
I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
Alexa? Seriously? You're going to use a third party service, that calculates its stats based on how many people use its toolbar, to draw the conclusion that Rapidshare has lost 75% of its userbase? That's pathetic, and quite an idiotic reasoning right there.
Alexa's stats are guesstimates. Nothing more.
I'd be stupid to type out a post and not believe in it, now wouldn't I?
No. Read what I wrote. Rapidshare is not dependent on warez file uploaders. If they are, they are not dependent on those who do it for the cash.
Filesonic, Fileserve, etc and the rest are dependent on warez uploaders and will go down very soon. I don't suppose you need me to give you reasons on why I believe that.
Allow me to name just one - Firefox 4. Did you look up their statistics? 15.x million downloads just after release. There's tons and tons of stuff out there that is legal, can be shared using Rapidshare's infrastructure, and would earn Rapidshare loads of cash.
I didn't disagree anywhere in my post that Rapidshare's popularity is due to warez uploads/uploaders. I whole-heartedly agree with that. My point is simple - the cashwhores. None of us know the first thing about Rapidshare's internal statistics and/or growth/decline. So none of us should drawn staunch conclusion based on 3rd party statistics alone.
That's called marketing. Every company does that. Filesonic is paying uploaders 80% of the money they earn from premium users. Is it because they are declining and their servers are costing them more than they can earn? No. It's because almost every company exists for one reason - profit. Rapidshare is not a charity. They're profiting (which is the reason they are in business). They want to profit more, so they're rolling out promotions. What's the wrong in that? I do that a lot with my own businesses.
It is all part of the strategy, game for clevers. Hats off, they took shitload of money, thanks to warez. But ever since majority of warez uploaders abandoned them since they can't even keep their account, because they are terminating them, nothing left for uploaders at all.
That's why they kept all files I uploaded, on their servers, to produce more sales, while I got 16 accounts terminated.
That, unfortunately, is your loss. Don't be stupid. Rapidshare's policy disallows copyright infringing uploads. They did what they had to, to save their ass. Every filehost would/will do that. You can't expect a filehost to go through the legal trouble just so you can keep your account, do you?
EDIT: The uploaders do not dictate what filehost will live/die. The uploaders simply go with the flow and move on to the next filehost that pays them the most. Want proof? The uploaders did not dictate Hotfile's future. The media group suing Hotfile's ass did. They sued hotfile -> hotfile fucked over uploaders -> the uploaders cried -> they had no choice and had to move to filesonic/fileserve.
So, where do the uploaders stand? Nowhere. Once (and it's only a matter of time) a precedent is set against filehosts rewarding uploaders with cash, they'll have nowhere to go. Then, it'll be uploading in exchange for goodwill, and nothing more. We'll see, then, how many uploaders are dictating what.
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Just look at myspace and facebook - even if many people still use the first, and it's still popular in certain circles, the second one is "the thing" - most people moved to it, and others, in order to keep up with friends either have to move too or run both accounts at once. Filehosting is the same.
While alexa stats are by no means completely accurate, they are kind of web standard of estimating website popularity ( and the more visitors website has, the lesser margin of error it is. That's the same way presidental elections estimates are presented few minutes after voting is over -even if not everyone is using alexa toolbar, if you ask for every 100th person about their vote, then you can get quite correct estimate of final results, which will be known after few days when all votes are counted.
Even assuming 50% margin of error ( which would be huge by statistics' standards ) rapidshare lost half of it's userbase in one year, and it keeps declining.
Personally i see many similarities between those two.
What's the point of using rapidshare to download firefox, if you can download it directly from mozilla website, where you have guarantee that it's not infested with malware, and you don't have to wait 45 seconds or pay for it.
Been saying this for a long time now. Good to see another person saying it now.
hahaha you gotta be kidding me. I hope you posted alexa as a joke. Alexa says tv intent is +1800% for 1 month. It has lost visitors. Like 50%...Rapidshare lost all the kids going to their site (with the alexa bar) and running remote uploads hammering the servers. They are probably making more money now saving on servers and having actual paying clients.^this.
Other filehosts should take this as lesson. Don't fuck with your affilates.
I wouldn't call losing 75% of userbase in one year a "progress"...
Firefox 4. You would, or you know anyone on the face of the planet, who would buy Rapidshare premium account, to download Firefox 4, when he can download it for free from developer itself? Only scenario I can think of, that someone download firefox trough rapidshare link is that he:
1. Can't access Mozilla website at all.
2. Already have RS account,, bought for downloading warez, and just stumbled on Firefox that was rared inside a movie he downloaded.
3. There is no 3rd option that I can recall.
Download itself doesn't produce earnings for Rapidshare, selling account does.
On second one, I don't use any statistics, except naked observation of their actions.
They say everything about them that can be said.
Simple statistics.
When I upload lets say...10TB of files, on some file-host, during 6 months, and then stop uploading, do you think my 'earnings' would drop instantly? Nope, they wont.
Simply, because people will bump those topics I post my links long time, after I stopped, if files aren't deleted.
I have 6-7 megatopics on WBB, that are still alive, and bumped regularly, because there's tons of material still alive, and worth of download. That still brings them traffic and downloads...but, how my topics are dying, they are dying too...less and less bumps, after a year, less and less traffic they get...they are dying slowly, because they didn't deleted files, warez files that are still on their servers. They know that, and they are using that, to stay alive.
Introducing rapids, isn't marketing....that is one of worst things they ever did.
They did that, because they wanted to save earned money, to keep themselves alive more, because they had to ban shiload of uploaders. That is why they limited download, and kept the files. To be more alive. No marketing. Survival.
Because of THAT decision, lots of even downloaders, moved from them, and picked new ones.
Maybe you don't see how many Filesonic accounts are sold in playsonic? From where do you think all those downloaders, premiums, are coming, since RS was the only decent file-host, besides megaupload?
Rapidshare is not a charity? Hm...As far as I remember, they WERE charity, with their charity program, when they got lawsuit, so they can look like an angels in lawsuit.
Another trick, to stay alive.
I don't have a loss with Rapidshare, whatever I do, I do it for fun, and whenever possible, few extra $, nothing else.
Yes, RS policy....As I said, they kept files, didn't delete them. If they are so strong, why they rely on my files bringing them traffic, why not deleting all files with terminated accounts? Because they would completely emptied their servers. Nothing attractive would be left, for them to make money on.
I love Rapidshare too, smooth, fast, no hickups.
But I am a bit more realistic, and in uploading waters, to know what is going on
Majority of uploaders still using RS just to have bumps, and 'thanks for RS' on their topic.
So, YES, they ARE dependant on warez uploaders. Why? How? MOST OF DLL sites ask RS links as primary, but all others, Fileserve, filesonic and others are there too. There isn't too much topics with RS EXCLUSIVE. But there is SHITLOAD of EXCLUSIVE FILESONIC and FILESERVE topics...
Lots of folks still have their accounts, because they don't download too much, but even if minority doesn't renew their accounts on RS, it means they are loosing the battle.
Today 9 accounts, tommorow 8 , day after that 7....etc...
You actually told me how file-host depends on uploaders, and you still don't realize that ?????? omg...
Where do you think files are coming from? From thin air?
Here is the simplest math I can make up here, for bettter understanding.
Lets assume I am the only uploader in the world.
And there is 10 file-hosts.
The one I, as uploader, pick to upload to, will make money.
IF he's going down for other, 3rd party reasons, wherever I move, that file-host will make money.
It is irrelevant which file-host it is, or what happens with it, since I am the one who puts material on their servers, I advertize them, and I bring them sales. So, If I decide to move to another filehost, and leave my files I already uploaded, they will be alive as long as file-host keeps them.
Once they are all deleted, he can shut off his business.
Is it more clear now how file-host depends on uploader, and who dictate which file-host will live, and which will die? Why do you think all file-hosts are here, among uploaders group??
Yes, I know you are smarter than me, and you won't argue with an idiot...
1. Can't access Mozilla website at all.
2. Already have RS account,, bought for downloading warez, and just stumbled on Firefox that was rared inside a movie he downloaded.
3. There is no 3rd option that I can recall.
Download itself doesn't produce earnings for Rapidshare, selling account does.
On second one, I don't use any statistics, except naked observation of their actions.
They say everything about them that can be said.
Simple statistics.
When I upload lets say...10TB of files, on some file-host, during 6 months, and then stop uploading, do you think my 'earnings' would drop instantly? Nope, they wont.
Simply, because people will bump those topics I post my links long time, after I stopped, if files aren't deleted.
I have 6-7 megatopics on WBB, that are still alive, and bumped regularly, because there's tons of material still alive, and worth of download. That still brings them traffic and downloads...but, how my topics are dying, they are dying too...less and less bumps, after a year, less and less traffic they get...they are dying slowly, because they didn't deleted files, warez files that are still on their servers. They know that, and they are using that, to stay alive.
Introducing rapids, isn't marketing....that is one of worst things they ever did.
They did that, because they wanted to save earned money, to keep themselves alive more, because they had to ban shiload of uploaders. That is why they limited download, and kept the files. To be more alive. No marketing. Survival.
Because of THAT decision, lots of even downloaders, moved from them, and picked new ones.
Maybe you don't see how many Filesonic accounts are sold in playsonic? From where do you think all those downloaders, premiums, are coming, since RS was the only decent file-host, besides megaupload?
Rapidshare is not a charity? Hm...As far as I remember, they WERE charity, with their charity program, when they got lawsuit, so they can look like an angels in lawsuit.
Another trick, to stay alive.
I don't have a loss with Rapidshare, whatever I do, I do it for fun, and whenever possible, few extra $, nothing else.
Yes, RS policy....As I said, they kept files, didn't delete them. If they are so strong, why they rely on my files bringing them traffic, why not deleting all files with terminated accounts? Because they would completely emptied their servers. Nothing attractive would be left, for them to make money on.
I love Rapidshare too, smooth, fast, no hickups.
But I am a bit more realistic, and in uploading waters, to know what is going on
Majority of uploaders still using RS just to have bumps, and 'thanks for RS' on their topic.
So, YES, they ARE dependant on warez uploaders. Why? How? MOST OF DLL sites ask RS links as primary, but all others, Fileserve, filesonic and others are there too. There isn't too much topics with RS EXCLUSIVE. But there is SHITLOAD of EXCLUSIVE FILESONIC and FILESERVE topics...
Lots of folks still have their accounts, because they don't download too much, but even if minority doesn't renew their accounts on RS, it means they are loosing the battle.
Today 9 accounts, tommorow 8 , day after that 7....etc...
You actually told me how file-host depends on uploaders, and you still don't realize that ?????? omg...
Where do you think files are coming from? From thin air?
Here is the simplest math I can make up here, for bettter understanding.
Lets assume I am the only uploader in the world.
And there is 10 file-hosts.
The one I, as uploader, pick to upload to, will make money.
IF he's going down for other, 3rd party reasons, wherever I move, that file-host will make money.
It is irrelevant which file-host it is, or what happens with it, since I am the one who puts material on their servers, I advertize them, and I bring them sales. So, If I decide to move to another filehost, and leave my files I already uploaded, they will be alive as long as file-host keeps them.
Once they are all deleted, he can shut off his business.
Is it more clear now how file-host depends on uploader, and who dictate which file-host will live, and which will die? Why do you think all file-hosts are here, among uploaders group??
Yes, I know you are smarter than me, and you won't argue with an idiot...
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I simply stated a possibility for the sake of stating one, because cvrle wanted me to name one possible software that could be put on Rapidshare's infrastructure.
Obviously what I meant was way off from what you assumed. But then it is my fault for not clearing it up. I meant it with regards to Mozilla dumping their infrastructure and using Rapidshare's infrastructure to deliver the official releases. Rapidshare has the capacity (and more) to easily handle Mozilla's software delivery. And the money Mozilla spends on their infrastructure, they could pay Rapidshare (possibly saving costs in the process) in return for Rapidshare offering Mozilla's files without wait time/restrictions. Rapidshare gets business, Mozilla gets the advantage of an already established and time proven infrastructure that is both high quality and conforms to integrity.
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Rapidshare already provides such functionaliy for corporations - you can use rapids to enable hotlinking for uploaded files.
What's more interesting - other "evil hosters that pay for warez" have it too - with each hotfile premium you got 100GB of traffic that you could use to hotlink your files, and if you ran out of traffic you could purchase additional GBs ( if you needed very large ammounts you could contact sales for bulk discounts ).
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