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All that PayPal vs filelockers situation...

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Many WJunction webmasters have been hit hard by PayPal declining smaller filelockers. As you already know it has been initiated by a guy who works in adult industry in a legit way. Let me bring some further explanation so you better understand the motivation and all the aspects of this issue from another legit porn industry worker.
The industry has been a great business for many years, before recent few. With the economic slow down there have been popping out brand new sites providing free porn videos as tubes and warez boards in combo with filelockers. The sales have been hit drastically and are in constant decline for a couple of years.
When it has been a golden rush in porn some guy produced some porn material, uploaded it on his own paysite and have been selling it thru that site affiliates. Everyone was happy: he gets the profit from those porn videos he shot, creates some new ones, pay the models and production guys and we affiliates make money by sending traffic to his site.
Then we have got all of you on our heads. You steal from paysite members areas and give it for free, so the traffic pays for hosting services only. You contribute nothing to the production and won't let the original producer to earn that much money. You also won't let us - legit affiliates to generate that much profit by selling those sites.
Now the karma is bitching you. You are losing some money because of slow down we experienced. I believe the rules have change and there's no safe heavens for file lockers any longer. The most aggressive copyright infringers are getting dropped by PayPal and credit card billers (and it's smaller ones depending solely on stolen content) . And big guys will be still working, but won't let to have any significant copyright infringer on its board. Times have changed and like we say - adapt or die. Focus on something bright this time, so everyone is happy.

Best of luck,
Love & Peace
 
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Nigga you try and take filelockers down, people will go to torrents, that simple. Its hollywood drama all over again.
You guys aren't making a difference.

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Oh and another things, something else will arise from filelockers. It won't end. Your whole little excuse for CP and shit doesn't fool me, there's something else behind this and that's incentive.
 
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from my opinion, Porn should be banned! its impossible...
bt Credit Cards and other payment processor ,banks should decline transaction on porn material, remember CP is coming from them
I use internet over so many years,downloaded many movies,clips soft etc bt never saw this kinda files, Saw snap of the files uploaded by them,where and how they got it? its must be All these Cp are their production, So this industry should not be supported by any payment processors.
 
^None of those links leads to actual CP, they're some other crap pr0n renamed like that to attract pedos and these people know it. If that was actual CP and these people cared about children as they claim, they should have contacted the appropriate authorities and I'm sure the filehosts would have been more than willing to remove the content and give the personal info of people uploading such material to the authorities. But no, they're not real CP and these people's motive isn't protecting children either.

Edit: Didn't this idiot post the exact same crap right here once before?
 
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sound people does not search for "CP", only retards do so -_-

Killing filehosts by uploading files with name which looks like CP is shit idea to do. Do it in some manly way. Go send them court notices or something similar but dont use this CP strategy to kill -_-

Edit: Anyways eroding FILEHOSTS from root is never gonna happen :| yea you would be able to kill some small filehosts but thr are some biggies which do follow every complain & legality. Its long way to go.........
 
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avRo said:
from my opinion, Porn should be banned! its impossible...
bt Credit Cards and other payment processor ,banks should decline transaction on porn material, remember CP is coming from them
I use internet over so many years,downloaded many movies,clips soft etc bt never saw this kinda files, Saw snap of the files uploaded by them,where and how they got it? its must be All these Cp are their production, So this industry should not be supported by any payment processors.
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I've worked in the adult industry for going on 13 years now, and you clearly are WAY off base with this comment. Your words are the same words I've heard from the religious zealots who rail against the adult industry, by using straw-man arguments like this to try to bring clout to their mis-formed perspectives.

Your assumption that all photographers are c**d predators is such a far-off and mistaken assumption, I just can't comprehend the logic you use to draw such conclusions.

The people who participate in c**d p*** are not in the adult industry. The vast majority of photographers I've worked with in the adult industry are the epitome of professional, and have the highest regard for the welfare of everyone they work with. None would ever put themselves in a situation that would lead to the legal and social ramifications of spending the rest of their life in prison. And most are successful to such a high degree, they take the highest level of precaution in every element of their business dealings.

I don't think you understand the level of scrutiny adult industry producers are subject to 24.7. We are prepared day and night for federal records inspections, and have to have our I's dotted and T's crossed or it's literally the end of our lives. Nobody takes risks like that.

It frankly sounds like you've been watching too much television.
 
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freehealthylife.com said:
Found this at TF article

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http://forum.searchengines . ru/showpost.php?p=10584110&postcount=1059
Look like AK is CP's creator
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All the sites they refer to were over 18 year old teens. There was one banner to a site which was part of a banner exchange and that banner was terminated the moment it became noticed. So nice detective work but off the mark completely. Verotel banner exhanges (Verotel being a payment processor) used to process for teen model sites. Occasionally a banner slipped through, each time we terminated them.

I always only ever ran porn sites with over 18 models. Always have and always will.
 
I do not really see the problem.

Filehoster with a good concept still use Paypal like Netload or Rapidshare.

On the other hand you got new filehoster without any concept which offer alot of money for your warez uploads will crumble after a couple of months.
Paypal is just protecting itself and the consumer.
 
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Oh and another things, something else will arise from filelockers. It won't end. Your whole little excuse for CP and shit doesn't fool me, there's something else behind this and that's incentive.
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Good, because nobody was trying to "fool you". The bottom line is your theft business model is pathetic, and the hammer is going to drop on you. Until you change your business model to something that doesn't completely f**k the people you're stealing from, you're going to continue to find yourself facing a heap of legal consequences. Speaking of "incentive", you think the incentive to shut down illegal distribution and bring back legitimate profits doesn't have any merit? You seem to think that because YOU make money stealing other people's content and selling it to Squillion, Pigsonic, Rapidshare, etc. that's the only incentive that should hold any weight?

Yeah, sure. Like I'm going to let you commit robbery, and sit and listen to the s**t you talk when I try to stop you.

Nobody cares how immoral you think the adult industry is, or how immoral Hollywood is, or how immoral Microsoft is. In fact, nobody gives a rip what you think unless you actually created the content yourself.

"Fair use"? "Safe harbor"? Go brush up on your laws, because when there's willful infringement... you're the one with the target on your back. Go back to law school... You obviously flunked out on the most basic intro classes.

Oh yeah, and the whole "it won't stop, so you shouldn't do anything to try" argument is pretty funny.

Auto Industry: You shouldn't install seatbelts because PEOPLE will still DIE! You shouldn't install air bags... people will still die!

Parachutes: You shouldn't use a parachute when jumping from an airplane, because people will still die!

Police: You shouldn't investigate crime, because people will still commit crime!

Love reading this stuff... it never gets old.

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^None of those links leads to actual CP, they're some other crap pr0n renamed like that to attract pedos and these people know it. If that was actual CP and these people cared about children as they claim, they should have contacted the appropriate authorities and I'm sure the filehosts would have been more than willing to remove the content and give the personal info of people uploading such material to the authorities. But no, they're not real CP and these people's motive isn't protecting children either.

Edit: Didn't this idiot post the exact same crap right here once before?
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So you're telling us that the file lockers are making changes like this to their terms of service... over falsely named files meant to fake people out? And you know this how, exactly?

You might want to inform the file lockers and their processors that what resides on their server actually isn't illegal content, because the way they're being brought down... it sounds like it all might be just a mistake. It would be a sad, sad day for such law-abiding businesses to bite the dust over something silly like profiting from c*** exploitation. Safe harbor, right? :)

You should write a book on proper takedown procedure etiquette. You sound like such a wealth of knowledge... Are you an attorney?

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are you guys really that big of attention whores you need to troll here? You're doing your jobs I applaud your effort, but posting what you guys are posting here, and on GFY with your celebratory childish posts will do nothing to further your movement. I mean what sites have been shutdown as a result of all your works?

Just want to know 1. Thanks.
 
i see you guys don't want to see the new reality.
thing's won't any longer be the way they used to be. there will be filelockers without warez or filelockers without paypal and cc billing - it's that simple

most of you might not know, that one days spam, cp and other extreme stuff were all over the internet. now it almost doesn't exist. the same thing is happening to filelockers. internet becomes more strict and regulated. i don't like myself many aspects of it, but it is how it is. i have seen it in the past and i see it now.

the best choice for you guys is to find yourself some better ventures, it's plenty of such on the internet. rogue filelockers are dead, like many others rogue businesses became dead over the years.
 
It is not of anyone's concern which ones cease to operate. The only issue of concern is that they are no longer capable of billing for illegal and stolen content, and that is quickly happening.

It will be considered a success when uploaders are no longer getting paid to upload, illegal content is no longer being billed for behind the backs of content creators, access to pirated content is no longer being widely disseminated across pirate forums... and affiliates are no longer getting paid to post links to IP infringing content.

This is something we can all get behind, because it will allow our content creation industries to become profitable once again.

But first we need to crack a few skulls. Sorry.
 
there are plenty of huge hosts who don't have affiliate programs and there are plenty of questionable things hosted there. do you think because you've taken down some payment option for some very small sites who have an affiliate program, people will stop uploading to file lockers?

Sorry bud. No.

there are plenty of sites which don't have affil programs, and plenty of people who upload not for pay. not everyone in warez is a cashwhore.. (no offense to anyone here). And when the cashwhores aren't getting paid to do it anymore, they'll do it for free like they always have. and make money off cpm, adult friendfinder, and juiccybucks for there forums. :)

People do it just to do it.

so, you'll have everyone uploading to all the filelockers which don't have affiliate programs. then the big filelockers get free traffic, and most importantly a shitload of free premium conversions and don't have to pay affiliates.
access to pirated content is no longer being widely disseminated across pirate forums... and affiliates are no longer getting paid to post links to IP infringing content.
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sorry, this will never happen. This has been happening since bbs days man. You know. when people had to dial a computer to read forums? Where are you from? This is not some place like japan who block out everything on the internet.

Also, are you saying you're efforts are going to set precedents in the filehosting industry? And will overshadow the megaupload situation?

but answer the question, which site have you taken down?

or are you just being a trolling attention whore?
so if you're just here to troll, just GTFO?
 
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