I wish to sell windows RDP or Windows Vps

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As you all know Support is matter a lot. no matter if the price is high or low, after users purchased, they only seek for support and the one who provides excellent support will retain his customers and customers will refer others. Since you are entering in to the Global market you have to provide 24/7 support in order to retain your customers, else customer will keep moving from one to another.

In terms of price, Since you are new service provider try to offer discount for your new customers (customers look for this) also provide options for Quarterly, Half-yearly, Annual with best discount price and try to grab your customer and provide excellent support to retain them and get referrals from them. (since most of the customer will prefer monthly basis however few customers who wants to avail your service may also look for the Quarterly or Half-yearly and very rare Annually )

Do not offer anything Free unless you are getting that product/service for free. Since free service is not utilized properly or maximum by most of us.

Pricing you need to work it out rather than asking others, since others may want lesser price and that should not lead to zero profit or business loss.

You have a lot of competitor so check their pricing and then work out a best price, where you should also gain small or good profit and at the same time customers are happy for what they are paying. (win-win method)

The above told words are try to grow your business and set an example to others.
 
That was bingo on calculation front I would definitely provide you next month as mentioned in the first thread

As a RDP provider you have to offer private trackers like utorrent.
User will download & upload stuff...even if they upload 40 files of 1 GB..it will coast 40 GB bandwidth and torrent will coast quite more as they have to keep their ratio up.

As i mentioned Am not worried about the bandwidth because i can upgrade my bandwidth any time and about the quality that would be my preference for any given time would avoid overselling it hampers quality also the name

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Do not offer anything Free unless you are getting that product/service for free. Since free service is not utilized properly or maximum by most of us.

Pricing you need to work it out rather than asking others, since others may want lesser price and that should not lead to zero profit or business loss.

You have a lot of competitor so check their pricing and then work out a best price, where you should also gain small or good profit and at the same time customers are happy for what they are paying. (win-win method)

The above told words are try to grow your business and set an example to others.


Yes we are matured enough,And also our company is legally registered,

TO notify we are in hosting market for quite some time with our different products Just new to offshore so this would help us what exactly user/customer wants
 
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Reason I said to get on unlimited Bandwidth so that you don't have to spend extra $$ on bandwidth from your pocket or profit...If they have any cheap unlimited bandwidth plan..Go for it.
If you ask me..As a user..I download around 60 Gb files(sometimes 250 GB+) from torrent & upload ratio is 1:5 and on some 2-3.
Speed will be good..so more likely people will download & upload more..Anyways, you don't have to worry abt it now...Make a start first and then you can calculate how much BT user are consuming daily..if require, change your plan in Next Month.
Hard disk play a imp role...Make sure you have 4 disk with Raid 10 (this will cut 50% storage ).
 
In terms of Hard disk better to go for SAS than SCSI.

If users know that they are using SAS drive they know what kind of performance it gives and with best processor, users will be more happy with the service.

Always prefer Unmetered bandwidth, because customer point of view Unmetered BW is always preferred choice than Metered. (when i took my internet connection with unlimited bandwidth from our ISP that month i downloaded 110GB in 2MBps (i had a partition of 150GB free and after that month i had 40GB free), So like me initial time there will be more download and upload so customers use more bandwidth)

Best config + best ppeed + best customer support + best price = Customer SATisfaction and more customers
 
In my Experience

You should not worry about profit (Not loss but margin selling till u make rep)

Dont Keep more than 15 users a server or 5-6 users per disk a lot of people here Think only CPU and RAM Matters but DISK I/O is as important as CPU or RAM

Support even if its slow only 1 admin people care abt the server if they are goood they wont mind upto 24 hrs for ticket resolution
 
You should not worry about profit (Not loss but margin selling till u make rep)

Yes we are on the same track now:) Quality -> Less Support Issue -> Rep->Word of mouth-> More Clients all hosting provide should believe in this
 
15 K SAS drive might be quicker but not safe & it's coast way more.
Just for the sequential read and write, the RAID is better though..
Raid 0( 4 drives) will be best for I/O performance but has zero tolerance.If Disk fails..you loose all the data.
Raid 10 will be best choice & affordable.

Please note : Raid 10 will cut your disc space into half amount ..so if you have 1 TB disk space..you will get 500 GB for Use.
 
what's the location of DC you bought?

if you can sell Win VPS that is cheaper than the usual offers here, ill buy one.
 
15k SCSI drives will cost u a fortune people care abt price so dont buy it unless u are providing to some very hogh end clients which is rare,

As they have their own dedi
 
15 K SAS drive might be quicker but not safe & it's coast way more.

Why would SAS 15k RPM drives be not safe?

We operate 12x300GB SAS 15k RPM w/ a RAID10 (hardware controller) and the Read/Write are fast (small 50MB to big 4GB files). Let me tell you is as safe as it can get. We haven't had one downtime the whole year due to drives.

It is expensive. Very to say the least but is very fast (no more why is unrar/rar'n slow) one prime example most RDP users get here and is more reliable than SATA which not all the time are meant for 24.7 usage. Especially if they are Desktop drives and not RE4 or Const drives.

From experience I can confirm this. Take it from someone who knows.
 
How come SAS 15K is safe without raid ?..If one is concern about data..he has to go with raid which will be price killing..If not lucky enough to get provider @ cheap price

Sata II 10K RPM with raid 10 perform better..for 1 & half year (2009-mid 2010)I have sold pass crackers,port scanner & some yahoo chat tool with RDP on Sata II with raid 10...Server used to get brute raped as those tool uses too much system res, drive I/O & RAM and never got any downtime.
SATA which not all the time are meant for 24.7 usage
where you get assumption from ? Most of the host,e-commerce & social sites are running on Sata HD.
SAS makes too much noises and heat pretty fast..not good for personal desktop.

Sata 3 6 gb/s is out too in market..if your DC providing it..you can go for it instead of Sata II

I am not saying SAS 15 K is not better than SATA but you have to get SAS with Raid 10 to protect data & the price is high..not a good choice if you planning to sell Service for like $20.
 
SAS makes too much noises and heat pretty fast

Yes i have personal experience of it. There is presumption that its stability is good I feel from this discussion has to with sata right?

People who give out me best competitive pricing plans would be getting RDP / windows vps for free

So come on Bid help me to help you

And also let me know who wish to buy it So that I would sell you at cheaper price


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Monthly Gift : Windows RDP/VPS [Dated 1/jan/2012]
 
How come SAS 15K is safe without raid ?..If one is concern about data..he has to go with raid which will be price killing..If not lucky enough to get provider @ cheap price

Sata II 10K RPM with raid 10 perform better..for 1 & half year (2009-mid 2010)I have sold pass crackers,port scanner & some yahoo chat tool with RDP on Sata II with raid 10...Server used to get brute raped as those tool uses too much system res, drive I/O & RAM and never got any downtime.

where you get assumption from ? Most of the host,e-commerce & social sites are running on Sata HD.
SAS makes too much noises and heat pretty fast..not good for personal desktop.

Sata 3 6 gb/s is out too in market..if your DC providing it..you can go for it instead of Sata II

I am not saying SAS 15 K is not better than SATA but you have to get SAS with Raid 10 to protect data & the price is high..not a good choice if you planning to sell Service for like $20.



For RDP/VPS uses you need SAS disks (10k or 15k) to run a smooth operation. If you do not believe me look at all the RDP hosts. Most people will assume the RAM and CPU is low why do I get slow Unrar/Rar'n times? Is the IO of the disk. Most run into this weeks after their server is populated. If a host wants to hear people complain about that often then they will have a hard time having a smooth sail.

Once you start having many users on a server (not connections) we are talking about being an RDP/VPS provider here nothing what you (1) person may do.

RAID is not expensive if you look at software RAID. If you look at hardware then it can become expensive. However, in the long run (6months+) the benefit of running RAID in a VPS environment is better for the clients and the owner.

RAID not only increases redundancy (except RAID0) but it also increases performance. Especially if your running RAID10. Show me a system with SATA drives that can outperform our systems in the current setup now.

One final thing do not edit everything I said about SATA drives. I clearly mentioned they aren't for 24.7 use if they [aren't RE4 or Const drives] those two make a huge difference vs the other models in regular SATA drives and that's why big sites use it.

If your running RE4 / Const there is a higher chance of those disks being better for the server than regular drives.
 
One final thing do not edit everything I said about SATA drives. I clearly mentioned they aren't for 24.7 use if they [aren't RE4 or Const drives] those two make a huge difference vs the other models in regular SATA drives and that's why big sites use it.

Are you coming to the point Sas is more dependable?
 
For a VPS/RDP provider point-of-view, yes. Unless you keep the users per server very low.

For other things like a filehosting site then SATA will be more than fine.

In the end IO is most important to everything.
 
RDP selling and Raid10 ?
Everyone knows why users buy RDP. I don't think they are going to save their personal secrets on it.
So best options get SAS disks . keep in raid0 or keep in separted( place 4-6 users per disk). With a 600GB SAS disk you can place 5 users with 100GB.
 
I doubt most of the RPD providers have the wallets to look over at colo. Let alone buy a 600GB SAS disk (15k rpm = $650ish per drive) not including everything else.
 
10GB slots = 100 accounts per server = server won't work anymore. Not sure why you would suggest that, Rizwan. :O

That was quick calculation from the member.
Are you trying to ask the packages you want to keep.

Its better to move on safe side and keep low accounts on servers, i hope other providers will agree to this one. And i guess the bandwidth is a bit low. :)
 
Yes i have personal experience of it. There is presumption that its stability is good I feel from this discussion has to with sata right?
You don't really have to go for Sata..If they are giving SAS in your plan select it but you have to consider about the space they giving per drive..However, 4 SATA II with 10 K or 7.5 will do the charm...If your DC can provide SATA 3 with same price(Sata II) then go for it..SATA 3 has 6gb/s.Good enough for rar & unrar.however, if your user want to abuse the RDP..even SAS can't help out.
Most people will assume the RAM and CPU is low why do I get slow Unrar/Rar'n times? Is the IO of the disk. Most run into this weeks after their server is populated. If a host wants to hear people complain about that often then they will have a hard time having a smooth sail.

Once you start having many users on a server (not connections) we are talking about being an RDP/VPS provider here nothing what you (1) person may do.



One final thing do not edit everything I said about SATA drives. I clearly mentioned they aren't for 24.7 use if they [aren't RE4 or Const drives] those two make a huge difference vs the other models in regular SATA drives and that's why big sites use it.

If your running RE4 / Const there is a higher chance of those disks being better for the server than regular drives.

Thing is that you should understand that no DC provides Home SATA II disk..Offering cheap parts won't be profitable to them as they got to replace them each time HD get fails.

I never mentioned RDP I used was just as a single user...I said..I did provided RDP services to my user(18-25 User ) for 1 & half year...I know these stuff quite good and its depend more on how do you configure your server...
1 GB RAM with SAS won't give out good performance..Processor & RAM config also matters..its a RAM who read out memory from HD.

It's just your assumption that SATA II is not for 24/7...I already cleared out about SATA use in previous post.

Here I am showing you system with SAS 15 K eating up 100% CPU usage.
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This pic was posted in Wjunc thread by one member who was using RDP with SAS HD.
Busted CPU 100%...This is done by single user & this what I call System abuse..If you get user who continuously rar/unrar it gonna eat up all the resources and you can guess what if more people does the same on Server.People won't claim you all because you got SAS 15 K with Raid 10 ?

SATA being used before SAS was launched...so your claim that it wasn't meant for 24*7 is false.

Are you coming to the point Sas is more dependable?
SAS 15 K is faster than SATA 7.k or SATA 10 K but it's not like you can't offer good service with SATA ..WIth Sata 10 K you won't see much diff..In General it has 20-28% diff but a good processor with good RAM can cover it.Like I said, it depend more on how you confi your Server.
SAS drives are expensive then SATA ...As a RDP user people also want a Disk space too...Giving out 10 GB or 50 GB won't really bring much sales as Most of them download files large than 25 GB+ from torrent.
People also look for good space.
Most of the RDP provider are on SATA & they r running good service..you can check out their thread here.
There should be User Fair Use policy so they don't abuse the system..& Every thing would run smooth.

SERVERS are meant for the use of 24 hours x 7 days.
 
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