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Balancing the right amount of rules Vs. good for the community is a hard continues task which is made on a daily basis.
Rules for having a thread on WJ for a new FS a harder then ever, any new files host listed here can witness on that.

Although your suggestion for 1 year cool time seems fair, it isn't a moderate suggestion and it's too severe to be considered seriously.

You can suggest rules you may like to be applied for accepting new FS here on WJ and it would be taken into consideration.
 
File-Hosting said:
WJ do request some information from file hosts who wish to promote their services here.
Using the one year old criteria for file hosts being allowed to list here would mean that the official pages would be a shadow of the current pages that we see. You and I both know that such a large percentage of file hosts don`t even make it to their first birthday.
I`m not trying to be an asshole here and pulling to bits everything that you have said but to expect a forum to police file hosts and make decisions (even partly) on whether they are misleading affiliates is just not realistic.

What we decided to do with our own file host is to offer daily payments and low (really low) earning thresholds. We did this so to provide affiliates with some confidence that they was never far away from being paid. Don`t get me wrong...we are still a very small host (only been active since October last year) but we are growing and aim to deliver a decent service to the users and affiliates who choose to use us.

Anyway, good to have a discussion with you. I wish you well. :)
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Filehosts less than one year old can be allowed to promote their services in the discussion section while the ones who have crossed 1 year can post their support threads in the official support section.
This way everyone gets a chance for promotion at the same time affiliates safety is ensured to some extent.

Its very much a realistic possibility to police filehosts who are being promoted here. After all the community's reputation depends on it.

I dont intend to sound offensive but regarding your low payout threshold it clearly indicates that you are new to this business and lack experience.
You fail to realize that low payout thresholds increase the possibility of scams and increase the workload of staff unless they are automated. Its hard to keep up with the pace when you have to make 1000's of transactions everyday. In case of PPD some form of verification needs to be done in order to ensure the traffic is legit. In case of PPS Credit Card frauds and chargebacks are a very common issue. Most of the hosts lack a 3D Secure Payment gateway which leads them to get kicked out by their payment processors because of huge number of chargebacks. So paying out affiliates in such a short time frame is a bad idea.
 
File-HostingI really didn't like your posts here . as Gosh Said you just here to promote your host . you are talking like you never will scam !

Honestly I didn't like your host . at least buy custom template for your site

scammers everywhere . it is not WJ fault . we should care which site should use .

for me I like to use sites that offer fast payment and low minimum payout or sometimes old hosts but they also starts shaving like rapidgator . so using low payout sites will lower the risk
 
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Gosh said:
File-Hosting said:
WJ do request some information from file hosts who wish to promote their services here.
Using the one year old criteria for file hosts being allowed to list here would mean that the official pages would be a shadow of the current pages that we see. You and I both know that such a large percentage of file hosts don`t even make it to their first birthday.
I`m not trying to be an asshole here and pulling to bits everything that you have said but to expect a forum to police file hosts and make decisions (even partly) on whether they are misleading affiliates is just not realistic.

What we decided to do with our own file host is to offer daily payments and low (really low) earning thresholds. We did this so to provide affiliates with some confidence that they was never far away from being paid. Don`t get me wrong...we are still a very small host (only been active since October last year) but we are growing and aim to deliver a decent service to the users and affiliates who choose to use us.

Anyway, good to have a discussion with you. I wish you well. :)
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It seems like your concern is to advertise your file host through a discussion in this thread.
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No, I never mentioned our file host when I originally replied. My original comment was that I don`t know how somebody can hold a forum (partly) responsible when they have not been paid by a file host. This particular forum is for discussion correct?
I commented in the second thread about what we do with low thresholds/daily payments because I know it potentially avoids such issues with people building up huge earnings of $1k + (again relating to the main issue that people have).

If you honestly feel that my aim was to purely advertise, by all means remove these couple of posts from me.

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Machar said:
File-Hosting said:
WJ do request some information from file hosts who wish to promote their services here.
Using the one year old criteria for file hosts being allowed to list here would mean that the official pages would be a shadow of the current pages that we see. You and I both know that such a large percentage of file hosts don`t even make it to their first birthday.
I`m not trying to be an asshole here and pulling to bits everything that you have said but to expect a forum to police file hosts and make decisions (even partly) on whether they are misleading affiliates is just not realistic.

What we decided to do with our own file host is to offer daily payments and low (really low) earning thresholds. We did this so to provide affiliates with some confidence that they was never far away from being paid. Don`t get me wrong...we are still a very small host (only been active since October last year) but we are growing and aim to deliver a decent service to the users and affiliates who choose to use us.

Anyway, good to have a discussion with you. I wish you well. :)
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Filehosts less than one year old can be allowed to promote their services in the discussion section while the ones who have crossed 1 year can post their support threads in the official support section.
This way everyone gets a chance for promotion at the same time affiliates safety is ensured to some extent.

Its very much a realistic possibility to police filehosts who are being promoted here. After all the community's reputation depends on it.

I dont intend to sound offensive but regarding your low payout threshold it clearly indicates that you are new to this business and lack experience.
You fail to realize that low payout thresholds increase the possibility of scams and increase the workload of staff unless they are automated. Its hard to keep up with the pace when you have to make 1000's of transactions everyday. In case of PPD some form of verification needs to be done in order to ensure the traffic is legit. In case of PPS Credit Card frauds and chargebacks are a very common issue. Most of the hosts lack a 3D Secure Payment gateway which leads them to get kicked out by their payment processors because of huge number of chargebacks. So paying out affiliates in such a short time frame is a bad idea.
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Yes totally understand your comment re abuse/fraud/other issues with low payouts. This was implemented so to provide confidence to affiliates that we are real.
When many payments are being made, yes of course it will be harder. I made the point already that we are a young host.
Over a period of time, we expect affiliates will be happy to retain their earnings until they reach a larger amount before they withdraw (but not increasing to the amounts that are being mentioned in this thread that have been lost).

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sabo kun said:
File-HostingI really didn't like your posts here . as Gosh Said you just here to promote your host . you are talking like you never will scam !

Honestly I didn't like your host . at least buy custom template for your site

scammers everywhere . it is not WJ fault . we should care which site should use .

for me I like to use sites that offer fast payment and low minimum payout or sometimes old hosts but they also starts shaving like rapidgator . so using low payout sites will lower the risk
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sabo kun, my original comment never even mentioned our file host. Whatever template/design we use is irrelevant.
The rest of your post - you are agreeing with my original comment.

Anyway, I`m out of this thread. :)
 
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My actual point of discussion were the filehosts which are heavily advertised at WJ. There are 100's of filehost support threads at WJ and not all of them have ended up scamming their affiliates.
I believe everyone should be allowed to promote their services but only the experienced ones should be endorsed by the forum.
Many of the affiliates here make their choices based on the advertisements and ongoing promotions. So it is important that strict rules are implemented to partly ensure their safety in the long run.
 
lol, you guys are making the work more harder for AdultKing :)

no more shitty hosts that run away with affiliate earnings and that are easy to kill

I guess you should use a "stable hosts" section and put the +1 year hosts there and one "use at your own risk section".
 
Sonic said:
lol, you guys are making the work more harder for AdultKing :)

no more shitty hosts that run away with affiliate earnings and that are easy to kill

I guess you should use a "stable hosts" section and put the +1 year hosts there and one "use at your own risk section".
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This is a good suggestion, probably the best solution for the time being.
 
Sonic said:
lol, you guys are making the work more harder for AdultKing :)

no more shitty hosts that run away with affiliate earnings and that are easy to kill

I guess you should use a "stable hosts" section and put the +1 year hosts there and one "use at your own risk section".
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+1
 
filehosts who like to keep all eggs in one basket fall prey to unscrupulous tactics deployed by AK
UL RG K2S have all been targeted by AK but all of them are still alive and kicking

@Sonic
I liked your suggestion about the 2 separate sections
 
AK is Adult King, he claims he is a porn producer/distributor and that filehosts are hurting his porn business so he is chasing and "hunting down" filehosts to get them closed by reporting them to Paypal and CC paygates to cut their money source, he also uploads to the servers of the filehosts child, extreme and zoo porn to get them in trouble with authorities and get their servers taken down.
He like to think he is doing something big against piracy although he is perpetrating female slavery and degrading women with his porn productions.
I am not a girl, but as a human I have sympathy for the girls who have and are foced to work in porn as they can be a wife, a sister, a mother, a daughter, a cousin... You wouldn't want that kind of treatment to a female member of your family. And yet Adult King thinks he is better than the filehosts and their uploaders who are hurting his slavery service.
 
Machar said:
meh..
wj administration once promoted oboom in their affiliates section
now since oboom stopped paying them and the affiliates they have been banned
without wj's promotion oboom would have never been able to acquire such a large volume of affiliates
wj administration has no regard for safety of its members
most of the filehosts that are promoted on wj eventually end up scamming their affiliates
absolutely no background check is done before a host is allowed to promote their services
any 0day filehost can advertise their services at wj
I feel wj is partly responsible for the loss
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Hi
I am not agree with what you are saying.
any file host want to promote or have an official support on wj has to pass few exams and provide official business plan.
So if oboom is scam website it is not wj's admin team's fault.
Kind regards
 
Lets wait until March then are 6 Months gone since their funds were frozen.Im pretty sure they pay us like Cloudzer where everyone said then dont pay and they do it...
 
Daniel77 said:
Machar said:
meh..
wj administration once promoted oboom in their affiliates section
now since oboom stopped paying them and the affiliates they have been banned
without wj's promotion oboom would have never been able to acquire such a large volume of affiliates
wj administration has no regard for safety of its members
most of the filehosts that are promoted on wj eventually end up scamming their affiliates
absolutely no background check is done before a host is allowed to promote their services
any 0day filehost can advertise their services at wj
I feel wj is partly responsible for the loss
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Hi
I am not agree with what you are saying.
any file host want to promote or have an official support on wj has to pass few exams and provide official business plan.
So if oboom is scam website it is not wj's admin team's fault.
Kind regards
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Since you are running a filehost your opinion holds little to no weight in this discussion.

P.S I am not putting the full blame on WJ Administration. I had accused them of partly being responsible not entirely.
 
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They will payout in March. Just wait.
Not without reason Uploaded switch on hardcore shaving Mode.
if they will not payout I will leave the hoster, too.

btw 1,9k open ...
last payout was in November.
so just wait ;)
 
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Payout in march is our last chance but it's hard to believe in happy end...
This host is totally dead. Support doesn't exist and suddenly everyone get paid?
I lost about 300 Euro.
 
Why on earth do you leave 4500 USD a at a filehost?!
Everytime my payout limit is reached, i request a payout. and if its not cacashed out, well i stop uploading.
 
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