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One issue is the respected rank has changed over time. Remember it used to be Trusted Webmaster. Then Respected Webmaster (changed due to scamming issues as they couldn't really be trusted) and now Respected Member (non webmaster people having being added to the rank).

When the rank was created it was mostly for real webmasters. It was given to some friends but was mostly given to people with large sites to show their experience rather than their trolling abilities. As time has passed it's developed into the "Active Member" rank more than a "Respected Member". It's not going to be renamed again as Respected sounds a lot better than Active however I do agree a bit of cleaning could be made to the rank. 5 star sites get demoted all the time and I don't see what harm would be in demoting one or two members. That's coming from someone who's rank was reduced recently as well :|

As for post count that's one of the biggest mistakes you can ever judge somebody on. Their are lots of people on this site I respect and very experienced webmasters here with over half a million members on their sites with less than 100 posts. Even Erratic the admin has very very few posts but it's quality that counts. We all know if some members with thousands of posts were cleaned they'd be left with about 10 useful ones.

The whole rank is over rated anyway and not just here but everywhere. You don't need a badge or fancy colour for people to respect and like you.
 
As its a Respected Member Thing,
1. No staff should vote about the working/activity , partiality CAN be there as there are limited Number of MODS.
Voting should be done by Open members On forum for selecting Respected Members.

2. Posts Count should not be seen as Spamming can also Results huge post Count, Member Seniority Should be counted by Date of registration by Post count Ratio , for checking his activity.

3. Stripping Of respected Badges Should Be Done after Searching all Post of last 1 month of a Respected person and check his Helping Nature/Type of Posts (Whether they are spam or not) Decision should be taken By Directly Group Of senior Staff (GMODS & Admins)..

Hope Other members Should also Agree with my suggestion
 
Mr Happy said:
One issue is the respected rank has changed over time. Remember it used to be Trusted Webmaster. Then Respected Webmaster (changed due to scamming issues as they couldn't really be trusted) and now Respected Member (non webmaster people having being added to the rank).

When the rank was created it was mostly for real webmasters. It was given to some friends but was mostly given to people with large sites to show their experience rather than their trolling abilities. As time has passed it's developed into the "Active Member" rank more than a "Respected Member". It's not going to be renamed again as Respected sounds a lot better than Active however I do agree a bit of cleaning could be made to the rank. 5 star sites get demoted all the time and I don't see what harm would be in demoting one or two members. That's coming from someone who's rank was reduced recently as well :|

As for post count that's one of the biggest mistakes you can ever judge somebody on. Their are lots of people on this site I respect and very experienced webmasters here with over half a million members on their sites with less than 100 posts. Even Erratic the admin has very very few posts but it's quality that counts. We all know if some members with thousands of posts were cleaned they'd be left with about 10 useful ones.

The whole rank is over rated anyway and not just here but everywhere. You don't need a badge or fancy colour for people to respect and like you.
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How would go about demoting them? They would demand why they lost it, so how would you do it peacefully?
 
**DEVILZ** said:
As its a Respected Member Thing,
1. No staff should vote about the working/activity , partiality CAN be there as there are limited Number of MODS.
Voting should be done by Open members On forum for selecting Respected Members.

2. Posts Count should not be seen as Spamming can also Results huge post Count, Member Seniority Should be counted by Date of registration by Post count Ratio , for checking his activity.

3. Stripping Of respected Badges Should Be Done after Searching all Post of last 1 month of a Respected person and check his Helping Nature/Type of Posts (Whether they are spam or not) Decision should be taken By Directly Group Of senior Staff (GMODS & Admins)..

Hope Other members Should also Agree with my suggestion
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1. People will just make fake/multiple accounts and I think there will then be a more partiality. Only Mods and staff should decided it.

2. So you saying people who have made 100 posts in a day and thus have 100 posts/day ratio should be made one of RM ? And you think admins really have time to check all K's of members for activity log ? -_-

3. Again same answer as 2 that will need another group of staff for such a task lol

Also stay on topic, iMage isnt asking what should be done to have new respected members or so

Hes asking for views on current ones
 
In my opennion , post count & activeness shouldn't be the only thing for respected members,
They should help the board in any way, like they can help members, they can give useful feedbacks (like you did)
and they shouldn't spam up the forum saying "good luck with the sales" "oh your making me jelous" "i m eating chips" etc etc,
once these kind of members get the rank, they think that they are doing it right, and they do it even more.
 
1. People will just make fake/multiple accounts and I think there will then be a more partiality. Only Mods and staff should decided it.

2. So you saying people who have made 100 posts in a day and thus have 100 posts/day ratio should be made one of RM ? And you think admins really have time to check all K's of members for activity log ? -.-

3. Again same answer as 2 that will need another group of staff for such a task lol

Also stay on topic, iMage isnt asking what should be done to have new respected members or so

Hes asking for views on current ones
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I think Voting Will be done for 24-48 hours , and No one will get to knwo for which member Voting have to start , so Its a Useless Point to make a FAKE ID , as New Member(Probationed) Votes should not Be count.MODS can be counted On fingers and Some member can do Bribe/Pressurize/On name of Friendship...and influence them for Voting

Answering your Second Point which is about DATE of registration/POSTS. If a new member will post 100 topic in a Day , then How will be Increase the date of Registration ???? ............Please do read My Post properly Before posting here.

Thirdly , I asked For Senior Members for Checking the Quality of Posts with in last 1 month of a respected Member , same reason.... Senior Staff is More experienced and Can do take decision without any influence

 
Let the senior uncles decide whom to promote and whom to demote or w/e? :)

Anyways with respect to iMage's suggestion, what can be done is only to see whether or not the guy is really indeed helpful, is active in the community (not with bull shit) rather contributing to it, how he treats others, and in this part his presence in the community shouldn't be taken as you don't know what the persons life could be. :S
 
i dont think the community should vote,as u well know the votes would be tainted from the ones being voted for would just ask all there friends to vote for them,which isnt the point of it anyway,respected members should be chosen by the staff,and staff only
 
dark_hunter said:
How would go about demoting them? They would demand why they lost it, so how would you do it peacefully?
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You'd be surprised. Some of the inactive ones wouldn't even notice. Also next time they get a warning or infraction remove the rank with it. Sorta like a statment Respected people shouldn't be getting infractions and causing trouble.

**DEVILZ** said:
As its a Respected Member Thing,
1. No staff should vote about the working/activity , partiality CAN be there as there are limited Number of MODS.
Voting should be done by Open members On forum for selecting Respected Members.

2. Posts Count should not be seen as Spamming can also Results huge post Count, Member Seniority Should be counted by Date of registration by Post count Ratio , for checking his activity.

3. Stripping Of respected Badges Should Be Done after Searching all Post of last 1 month of a Respected person and check his Helping Nature/Type of Posts (Whether they are spam or not) Decision should be taken By Directly Group Of senior Staff (GMODS & Admins)..

Hope Other members Should also Agree with my suggestion
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I disagree with a lot of this.... actually it all. Your just encouraging the rank to be "Active Member" rather than "Respected Member" and encorageing people to spam to increase post count rather than encouraging quality posts. And who doesn't go on holidays for a month or be quiet when coming upto exams? And getting other members to vote? that's asking for more trouble. You'd end up with Paris Hilton drama queens rather than intelligent and helpful Jimmy Carter's (Americans Most Respected in a Poll)
 
**DEVILZ** said:
As its a Respected Member Thing,
1. No staff should vote about the working/activity , partiality CAN be there as there are limited Number of MODS.
Voting should be done by Open members On forum for selecting Respected Members.
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This website is not a democracy (many seem to think that it is). It's best if we avoid the whole voting thing, trust me, voting only brings drama. (y)

Nobody has stated anywhere that respected member's will not lose their rank if they abuse it, if any of you feel that a member doesn't deserve to be respected, PM a staff member and we'll discuss it.

So iMage, overall your happy with most of the respected members? It's just a few that you think don't deserve it, right? Please PM me a list of people you don't think deserve the rank, I'll discuss it with the other staff members.
 
You know what, you're right, iMage! I quit.

Just kidding, but regardless I think the rank is pointless. If anyone wants, they can work up to the rank by "acting", and then just do a huge scam in the future. Considering they'd have "Respected Member" rank, they'd be trusted by many people. I'm sure it's been done before, who knows though.

I should get the Respected Member rank, you all respect me, right?! I'm so popular around here, and so helpful. Oh gosh, you all love me, correct? I'm just kidding around. I do plan on contributing a lot to this community in the near future though, the first thing I did when I got here was make a free GFX thread. I respect a lot of people here already also, not just ones with the rank though. I see a few people who don't deserve that rank, and quite a few more who actually do deserve it.

Regardless, I've got no say. But if the staff here is good, they'll take member's opinions wisely and put them into thought.

Fuck, I'm bored of typing now. Bye.
 
Loget said:
This website is not a democracy (many seem to think that it is). It's best if we avoid the whole voting thing, trust me, voting only brings drama. (y)

Nobody has stated anywhere that respected member's will not lose their rank if they abuse it, if any of you feel that a member doesn't deserve to be respected, PM a staff member and we'll discuss it.

So iMage, overall your happy with most of the respected members? It's just a few that you think don't deserve it, right? Please PM me a list of people you don't think deserve the rank, I'll discuss it with the other staff members.
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I don't think listing members in a PM would get you far Loget, most RMs are legit and do actually help out alot then again some members will try and get the rank taken off them just because they are not Respected themselves.
 
I review the respected members list often, to monitor activity (mainly last login, posts..), to be honest, only 3 or 4 aren't really that active, but they contributed in a direct or an indirect way and that's why I think they deserve the respected rank.

If you think someone doesn't deserve the rank, and it's not based on a personal grudge then by all means, send me a PM, I promise you it will be kept private, even from staff if that's what you want.

People like CyberJ37 and Curtis, they're definitely not as active as they used to before, but they were once very active members and contributed a lot, which is something I appreciate personally.

The members ranks are not just about activity, for example, jayfella, he chose to leave this site or not be as active. After a month or so his activity log will be basically null, that doesn't mean his rank should be stripped, he was once a great contributer.

Nonetheless, as I said, if you truly feel that someone doesn't deserve the rank, send me a PM and explain why, I promise you that I will look into it thoroughly.
 
again Loget most are pretty good yes,but i wont name names,i just think maybe the staff could watch it,u can see the attitudes of alot of teh 'respected' members even in the shoutbox flaming new people for asking questions,and posting nonsense in threads that were made because people required help with something.

naming names will just cause more drama,mods and smods whtever,it in reality is part of your duty to clean the forums,and from wht i have seen all these new ones are doing ok.but respected members,or friends of a mod seem untouchable.

Just watch teh co-op and gfx sections where people require help the most,and see some of teh crap replies,i did report a couple this morning as examples

ah ELJ i completly agree the names u mentioned are well deserving of tht rank,i reported a couple this morning tho,in threads appearing in co-op just making snide remarks or off topic replys in threads where someone posted (in the correct section) for help
 
Untouchable? no way, just because someone is a "friend" to one of the members in staff does not make them untouchable, if anyone, and I mean anyone (including staff) goes over the line then trust me the issue will be handled.

Sometimes I miss a few issues and goes by unnoticed, the reason for that is I just can't keep track of it all, so, help me to help you. If there is an issue that went by without any action don't assume that it's acceptable, let me know about it and as I said, will look into it thoroughly.
 
It would be nice to see more of the experienced people helping others around here. To me respected is just a color anymore. I know I personally have set up many peoples VPSes or dedicated servers and helped them install scripts and what not. I try and help them learn though rather than just doing it for them. Sometimes on msn I feel like tech support lol but as long as I am not busy I try and help anyone who asks.
 
first of all i think demoting/recruiting members is great like we have bunch of users / respected users which aren't active and some of them active and there are some users which fit to respected rank instead of respected users we have now in our respected group list :-?

i think el_j you need to make a thread explaining about ranks, like what is the work of

Admins, blah blah blah
Moderator, blah blah blah

and etc... it will help us alot by following this, and others will get that too!,
making rules of groups how to obtain it, after obtaining what to do for not being member again,

el_j please take some action cause i think the thread is rite! and 1+ to iMage
 
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