Possible solution to file hosting sites to accept payments

[Sonic]

Hi,

What if file hosting sites educate downloaders to use BTC (Bitcoin) to buy premium account?

Instead of using "reseller" sites they can place links of sites where users can buy BITCOIN then use a payment gateway like Bitpay or any other that process bitcoin.

Actually you can buy BITCOIN with creditcard, paypal, bank wire, etc.

Buy bitcoin with Paypal:

https://localbitcoins.com/buy-bitcoins-online/paypal/

Buy Bitcoin with other methods:

https://localbitcoins.com/buy-bitcoins-online/usd/

What do you think about it?

 

[VIP]

good idea. I noticed many filehosts already integrated with BTC but still most users/downloaders prefer the old method of payment. hope this will change one day and AK will cry infinitely.:pirate:

 

[ankurs]

use a payment gateway like Bitpay or any other that process bitcoin.

https://bitpay.com/legal

(b) Your use of the Services will not relate to sales of (i) narcotics, research chemicals or any controlled substances, (ii) cash or cash equivalents, including derivatives, (iii) items that infringe or violate any copyright or trademark,(iv) ammunition, firearms, explosives, or weapons regulated under applicable law, or (v) any services which compete with BitPay.

every processors will have similar tos, so they (ak) will just move from visa/master to these processors

users dont have time to understand bitcoins & the ones who do, they know how to use google properly to get same content elsewhere without premium account

 

[Sonic]

use a payment gateway like Bitpay or any other that process bitcoin.

https://bitpay.com/legal

(b) Your use of the Services will not relate to sales of (i) narcotics, research chemicals or any controlled substances, (ii) cash or cash equivalents, including derivatives, (iii) items that infringe or violate any copyright or trademark,(iv) ammunition, firearms, explosives, or weapons regulated under applicable law, or (v) any services which compete with BitPay.

every processors will have similar tos, so they (ak) will just move from visa/master to these processors

users dont have time to understand bitcoins & the ones who do, they know how to use google properly to get same content elsewhere without premium account

and what payment gateway use thepiratebay.se?

they use bitcoin and litecoin to accept donations

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good idea. I noticed many filehosts already integrated with BTC but still most users/downloaders prefer the old method of payment. hope this will change one day and AK will cry infinitely.:pirate:

Most users prefer old methods because they don't know what is bitcoin and how to obtain it.

if file hosting sites educate downloaders about bitcon it will change.

 

[Peter South]

I looked into the whole bitcoin thing about a year ago, specifically bitcoin mining, when I built my new PC that has quad sli GTX 780Ti video cards with a custom liquid cooling loop.

In the end I opted not to get involved with bitcoin mining because I didn't see much gain in putting all that stress on $4,000 worth of video cards....

At this point I don't even have a bitcoin app or account installed anymore, and I'm definitely not just your average internet user.

So I just feel that if people like myself aren't using bitcoin (I do realize that many people out there do use it however) that the average file host end-user is going to be even less likely to know how to use Bitcoin.

In theory your idea is a good one and undoubtedly makes the most sense for the exact reasons you outlined, however I just feel that in reality when it all plays out its not a platform that can be used to replace the current payment gateway/processor infrastructure currently in place for file hosts.

Trust me, I've been burned badly in recent months due to various file hosts' payment gateway/processor having issues such as frozen funds.

At the same time I can say that I have spoken with several file host owners and I am aware of some really innovating ways that they are working to resolve these issues. I'd rather not discuss anything specific, but some of the things going on behind the scenes right now should hopefully bring some stability back in the next upcoming months....

 

[Sonic]

it's adapt or die.

 

[antx]

Bitcoins as a payment is not necessary. There are several companies who sell generic drugs, replica watches and dutyfree cigarettes on the net - which is much more borderline business - and they have Visa and Mastercard.

 

[Sonic]

Bitcoins as a payment is not necessary. There are several companies who sell generic drugs, replica watches and dutyfree cigarettes on the net - which is much more borderline business - and they have Visa and Mastercard.

of course they can process VISA and MasterCard because they don't have people denouncing his merchant account.

but SFL monitors the payment gateway of file hosting sites and this forum 24/7. Then report to VISA and MasterCard that there's a merchant using credit card processing to process bestiality porn and child porn. that's it.

I can't believe 1 person/individual can do it.

 

[bapi21]

I can't understand what is the problem of sfl... What is his interest.. How he getting fund.. May be only 5% or 10% peoples download from filehosts... 90% peoples download from trackers.. Does he have courage to shut down tpb !!! I myself download files from trackers... My home connection peering speed 20mbps if local peer found. But he still have problem with filehosts... Bloody capitalist...

 

[antx]

of course they can process VISA and MasterCard because they don't have people denouncing his merchant account.

They have Federal Trade Commision, Food and Drug Administration and multibilion companies like Pfizer as an opponents = not some poor dude who begs for donations on gfy

 

[Oldone3pp]

Filehosts could always go back to a system that RS had ages ago and reward people with a 3 month premium acc based on d/loads, instead of paying this PPD or whatever crap and ultimately bring the whole business of warez back to what it should have always been....Dare I say it *Sharing without profit*

 

[antx]

Filehosts could always go back to a system that RS had ages ago and reward people with a 3 month premium acc based on d/loads, instead of paying this PPD

Why? PPD is viable business model

 

[Oldone3pp]

Filehosts could always go back to a system that RS had ages ago and reward people with a 3 month premium acc based on d/loads, instead of paying this PPD

Why? PPD is viable business model

How is it viable business model when all ya doing is uploading someone else's property and then get payment for it.

It's the same as being called conversion of goods, which is against the law.

Beats me how filehosts and all you uploaders seem to act like what your doing is somehow legal. Piracy was cool once but illegal, but now with all this PPD etc it goes far beyond just sharing what you have. The filehosts paying PPD etc & themaposters has screwed up the whole concept of sharing is caring. And now you all are starting to pay the price of what your doing with people like sfl & other anti piracy groups focusing much more on shutting us all down..permanently!

Please don't take me the wrong way I'm a pirate as much as the next person, but this whole concept of PPD etc will be the death of us.

Footnote

If you want a real viable business model, and be able to keep this PPD stuff then the best thing for all concerned would be that every dollar made and before anyone gets payed a percentange is payed to the rights holders & or their agents as royalty for the permission to upload their content. This could work if everyone filehosts, uploaders, rights holders/agents etc came aboard but there would have to be certain conditions etc.

It would not be an easy task setting something like this up, but it's a viable solution if it can be done & done properly.

 

[Sonic]

oh well, the time of rapidshare "happy hours".

The first site that started a PPD program was megaupload with $1 per 10,000 downloads then rapidshare with pps.

On 2008 hotfile, filesonic, fileserve, wupload, uploadstation, filejungle, netload, uploading, filefactory, uploadbox, letitbit, vip-files, easy-share(aka crocko), depositfiles

 

[antx]

Why? PPD is viable business model

How is it viable business model

PPD is viable business model because Megaupload which use PPD became one of the biggest sites on the net and made bilions of dollars.

It's the same as being called conversion of goods, which is against the law.

No, it's on the same.

Beats me how filehosts and all you uploaders seem to act like what your doing is somehow legal.

Legality of uploading depends where do you live.

And now you all are starting to pay the price of what your doing with people like sfl & other anti piracy groups focusing much more on shutting us all down..permanently!

LOL. All they can do is shutting down rookie hosts with one merchant account and no money. They will never shut down established hosts, they will not even try it.

every dollar made and before anyone gets payed a percentange is payed to the rights holders & or their agents as royalty for the permission to upload their content.

Dude, we give them free advertising...

 

[Oldone3pp]

How is it viable business model

PPD is viable business model because Megaupload which use PPD became one of the biggest sites on the net and made bilions of dollars.

Awesome! Umm where is megaupload now?

It's the same as being called conversion of goods, which is against the law.

No, it's on the same.

You upload somebody else's content/goods for monetary gain, how is it not the same?

Beats me how filehosts and all you uploaders seem to act like what your doing is somehow legal.

Legality of uploading depends where do you live.

Just because some countries anti piracy laws are more lax than others still does not make it legal.

And now you all are starting to pay the price of what your doing with people like sfl & other anti piracy groups focusing much more on shutting us all down..permanently!

LOL. All they can do is shutting down rookie hosts with one merchant account and no money. They will never shut down established hosts, they will not even try it.

Remind me again where megaupload is now? If you think what happened to MU can't or won't happen again to other large filehosts then you have your head in the sand

every dollar made and before anyone gets payed a percentange is payed to the rights holders & or their agents as royalty for the permission to upload their content.

Dude, we give them free advertising...

And that somehow makes it ok does it?

 

[CrazyMike]

It can be considered fair if filehosts would pay a percentage to content creators. However, that will never happen, the MAFFIA would probably demand millions of dollars as compensation, much more than most sites will make.

In regards to Bitcoin, don't confuse it with BitPay. The latter is a US company offering easy Bitcoin integration but it's restricted with crazy PayPal like rules.

You can run a Bitcoin node on any webserver and start accepting and sending payments at any time. Because Bitcoin is decentralized there is no (easy) way for it to be shut down by copyright trolls. The only real problem with Bitcoin is adaptation by the masses. Once that happens cutting of payment processors for filehosts is no longer a viable option. The old putlocker sustained for months on Bitcoin payments alone.

 

[anurr]

Yes, PPD isn't a "viable business model". I spend a lot of time encoding and refining my craft, but all I get in return are pennies.