Payza Funds frozen by DHS!

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With Cyber Monday and the traditional online sales coming up a few days from now on Dec. 2, this is what we know: Payza, the successor brand to Montreal-based AlertPay, a Ponzi-forum darling and chronic HYIP- and fraud-enabler, suddenly says this in a headline on its Community forum: “US Funds Frozen | Obopay/Ultralight FS. issue.”

The announcement is dated yesterday, Thanksgiving Eve in the United States.

Today is Thanksgiving Day. U.S. government offices are closed. Black Friday, another day of brisk U.S. sales activity in which retailers cater to door-busting holiday shoppers, is tomorrow.

We also know that the U.S. government has established a tradition of taking down counterfeiting and piracy scams and their enabling websites on Cyber Monday. Moreover, we know that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, issued an alert two days ago that it is working with partners and “will be conducting increased operations during the holiday season targeting the importation and distribution of counterfeit and pirated products.”

Beyond that, we know that the United States — the U.S. Secret Service, ICE and other agencies — took down the Liberty Reserve payment processor over the 2013 Memorial Day holiday period and the U.S. Department of the Treasury identified Liberty Reserve as a “Financial Institution of Primary Money Laundering Concern.” The bust was announced on May 28, the day after Memorial Day.

Backing up a year, we also know that the AlertPay-enabled Zeek Rewards venture that allegedly conducted a $600 million Ponzi- and pyramid fraud while auctioning sums of U.S. cash and telling successful bidders they could use AlertPay and another offshore processor (SolidTrustPay) to collect it, curiously announced on Memorial Day 2012 (May 28) that checks it issued from two U.S. banks had to be cashed by June 1 or they would bounce.

Backing up a few years, we also know that AlertPay and SolidTrustPay enabled the $119 million AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme and the $70 million Pathway To Prosperity fraud scheme — to name just two of many.

Meanwhile, we know that the court-appointed receiver in the Zeek case is going after money allegedly tied to Payza and SolidTrustPay. The most recent affirmation of this occurred on Nov. 14, when the receiver advised a federal judge that his efforts to gather $10 million from Payza “persisted” and that “new information has come in” that affects his analysis of Zeek-related Payza funds. Whether the $10 million sum would go up or down based on the new information was not revealed in the filing.

Analysis of “transactional data from Payza is not yet complete,” the receiver advised the judge. He also noted that the Payza funds were held in a “foreign bank account” in an undisclosed country. Based on its research, the PP Blog believes the country is in Eastern Europe.

We also know that AlertPay effectively became Payza in May 2012, even as Zeek was conducting auctions for U.S. currency and experiencing trouble with U.S. banks. Payza operates through a New York entity known as MH Pillars Inc., which in May 2012 announced the “recent acquisition of AlertPay’s existing online payment platform.” Payza also is associated with a U.K. entity known as MH Pillars Ltd. of London.

Thanksgiving Confusion
Although Payza’s headline uses the word “Frozen,” the text below it does not identify the party that purportedly froze the funds. At the same time, the text appears to be at least slightly at odds with the headline claim that the money was “Frozen.” Indeed, the text describes the funds as “withheld.”

Although the word choices may or may not be important, one thing seems obvious: Either word is apt to be unsettling to Payza’s U.S. customers who want their money.

“As you may or may not already know, we are unable to complete any requests to withdraw or transfer funds for a part of our U.S. members at this time, since they are being withheld [emphasis added by PP Blog] by Ultralight Financial Services (formerly known as Obopay Inc.) a licensed U.S. money transmitter of which Payza was an agent,” the announcement begins.

“We have tried to resolve this problem by contacting their management, their legal team and State regulators,” the announcement continues. “Their management and legal team were unresponsive. However, State regulators are willing to help us, but they have told us that they will not intervene unless they hear from you, the owner of your funds.

“In this case, Payza is asking all affected members to demand action from both Ultralight FS and your State regulator . . .”

Source: Conflicting Reports Over Status Of U.S. Payza Funds: Frozen? Withheld By Vendor? Seized By Department Of Homeland Security?

Attention MH Pillars dba Payza customers:

The US Department of Homeland Security has seized all MH Pillars dba Payza money on deposit with UltraLight FS. Additional information will be published as we receive it.

Source: Home
 
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Oh no!

Could it be another Liberty Reserve ?

Payza is a professional company they work hard to get registered every where they are accepeted. This is why its only affecting people in a few states, And they are working with the state regulators in those states to get the issued solved. They are not going to be shut down.
 
Official statement from UltraLight FS (formerly Obopay):

Attention MH Pillars dba Payza customers:

Ultralight FS does not have any funds belonging to Payza or Payza’s customers. The notification provided on Payza’s website is false and misleading. Any claims for funds should be directed at Payza where your account was established and administered.
 
Payza was dead from the moment when they started their business.

LOL they aren't dead, they just had a minor messup with not getting a license in a few states so they used a third party, they will probably be getting the licenses and will return to the U.S. and become a much stronger company.
 
Payza was dead from the moment when they started their business.

LOL they aren't dead, they just had a minor messup with not getting a license in a few states so they used a third party, they will probably be getting the licenses and will return to the U.S. and become a much stronger company.

Stronger than what? lol Al Capone strong? lol I mean that's what crooks are right? Payza was shady from the beginning,
and they're shady as fuck now, especially trying to claim that all US monies are in the hands of someone else and out of
their control. That's an out and out lie. Why the hell would money be sent to a third party, unless a withdrawal request
had been made? That's not logical, and one would have to be a blubbering idiot to trust them. Butter Payza up....they're toast.
 
LOL they aren't dead, they just had a minor messup with not getting a license in a few states so they used a third party, they will probably be getting the licenses and will return to the U.S. and become a much stronger company.

Stronger than what? lol Al Capone strong? lol I mean that's what crooks are right? Payza was shady from the beginning,
and they're shady as fuck now, especially trying to claim that all US monies are in the hands of someone else and out of
their control. That's an out and out lie. Why the hell would money be sent to a third party, unless a withdrawal request
had been made? That's not logical, and one would have to be a blubbering idiot to trust them. Butter Payza up....they're toast.

That's just how the business works. Payza are not an American company, so they partner with a licensed American money transmitter. Normally you'd never even know about the partner, they just deal with moving the actual cash behind the scenes.
 
I can tell you

Stronger than what? lol Al Capone strong? lol I mean that's what crooks are right? Payza was shady from the beginning,
and they're shady as fuck now, especially trying to claim that all US monies are in the hands of someone else and out of
their control. That's an out and out lie. Why the hell would money be sent to a third party, unless a withdrawal request
had been made? That's not logical, and one would have to be a blubbering idiot to trust them. Butter Payza up....they're toast.

That's just how the business works. Payza are not an American company, so they partner with a licensed American money transmitter. Normally you'd never even know about the partner, they just deal with moving the actual cash behind the scenes.
no, I can tell you the truste about it : FBI AND NSA can not find The Terrorists , because the terrorists never withdraw from payza.CIA and FBI all hate payza,Because The payza is a BIG Scammer!!!Stole every American USD and become rich , Even no usefull for NSA.
 
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