Norton IS Faster Then NOD32 | NAV2009 Vs Eset NOD32 AV

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Eset NOD32 AV Vs. Norton AV 2009

Introduction
Eset NOD32 Anti-Virus Vs. Symantec Norton Anti-Virus 2009

ESET's NOD32 has been by far the overall favorite by most people in the Warez Community mostly due to it's low use of system resources. However, not too many people have checked up on what actually matters, protection. If you look at ESET's products ratings from AV testers you will see it is far from perfect. Norton, or any product by Symantec for that matter, has been instantly hated on known for it's trademark system slow-down. Recently Symantec has re-designed the Norton engine introducing significant speed-ups and new features designed to accelerate a number of aspects of it's product. Norton has and always been slightly higher in it's protection ratings, let's see if it can stack up to ESET's performance standards.

Installation
Speed and surprises.

We have all grown to click next, un-check the automatic installation of Ask Toolbar, Smiley Central or another house for spyware, accept the license agreement and reboot if necessary. Installing security products tend to go differently. Most security products ask questions during the install about your home network, how interactive you want the product to be, your preferred level of security and if you want to password protect your settings. Eset's NOD32 Anti-Virus did exactly this minus the restart part. As part of the improved Norton engine the install was changed all for the better. You double click the installer, uncheck or click install depending if you would like anonymous system settings sent to Symantec, which for the record I never partake in, then sitback for the install. The one minute install. Sure, when you think one minute install you don't think anything of it but when all you have to do is click a button once and a program, drivers, and services are installed in about one minutes time in which the installer auto-closes and the program moves to the background itself without asking any questions, it's kind of nice. Not to mention the default settings will probably fit most users, with some wanting to change one or two to increase performance. Although it's not a big deal. Norton's install was much more "automatic" which is a nice change.

Processes & RAM Usage
Why you're here.

This is the reason 99% of you are reading this thread. To save your precious RAM to increase the speed of Windows, run more programs, or just because you can. As your reading this you're probably the best anti-virus solution for system performance is owned by Eset. You're also probably a little confused about why I'm comparing Norton with NOD32. Well let's find out.

After installation of Eset's NOD32 Anti-Virus you can see that the program operates off two services, ekrn.exe, the programs engine, and egui.exe, the control panel side of the program. Norton also installs two services at install but names them both the same. One operates the Norton engine, the other Symantec Updates.

Now for the results.


When Idle
NOD32
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Eset's NOD32 Anti-Virus varied from 32 - 38MB of RAM when idle while it's GUI was steady at around 1.5MB.

Norton
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NAV2009 used much less memory when idle then NAV09 by using on average about 8MB combined.

When Scanning
NOD32
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When scanning NOD32 didn't see much of an increase in memory usage.

Norton
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Norton took much more system memory scanning then it did when idle but it just about matched the amount of memory used when scanning as NOD32.

Interface & Options
Who's prettier?

I found both applications very appealing in terms of GUI and to a degree both had sufficient options for the basic and advanced PC users. I found that Eset's product has a more basic interface even under the "Advanced Interface". The advanced options inside of the advanced interface seems very cluttered. You see a clean interface with few options then all the sudden there is a huge list which can be expanded filled with options that can be very intimidating, this feels like it was thrown in at the last second or the graphics designer quit before he got to the advanced part.
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The advanced options box inside of Eset's NOD32.

Norton's interface is much more image oriented, you could say their graphics designer decided to stay until the product was finished. By looking at Norton's "Home" page you instantly notice they have tried to look like the next generation of software, also known as "Vista-ized". There is no "File, Tools, Help, etc." menu, instead all settings are placed accordingly. To try and prove that they sped up the speed of the program they included a CPU usage gauge. I personally disabled this as soon as I saw it mainly because I wasn't worried about Norton taking up anymore then 4% of a single core away from my quad. I preferred Norton's interface over NOD32's mainly because it was less intimidating while containing about the same options.


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Special Features
Are the extra's worth the space?

When looking for an anti-virus solution the key things you look for is the hit your system will take from constantly this program as well as the main reason we use anti-virus, protection. We expect an anti-virus program to have a few must-have options and features such as built in anti-spyware protection, scheduled scans and an efficient update system. Anything else is essentially an extra.
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Eset's NOD32 Anti-Virus

This is another section in which NOD32 seemed to lack. It does have a form of website protection where it takes a list of sites from another company that it considers dangerous to everyday users. This is lots of fun for W-BB users, USAW users and about ten more warez forums that were blocked thanks to this feature. Needless to say it does do it's job nicely and can be considered as a parental control. Other then this feature nothing stood out as special.

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Norton's "Insight" feature designed to speed up scans and decrease memory usage.

I was very impressed with the features Norton fit in while using such a low amount of system memory. The main feature I'm sure that people will like is called "Insight". This program connects to a Norton database which has a list of "safe files" that once Norton confirms they are safe it will not scan these files during a system scan nor in it's auto-protect (on-the-fly system scanning). I did not play around with this feature too much but I'm sure if someone spend sometime playing with Norton's system files they could find a way to add your own files to this feature to dramatically speed up scanning.

The Warez Factor
Assuming you are going to download one of these program I thought it would be a good idea to throw in this section.
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NOD32 has been successfully cracked. You can download a pre-cracked version which is a trial that has been modified to last around 60 years, it is probably one of the easiest programs let-alone anti-virus programs I have installed by downloading illegally. You simply run the .exe and restart. However, if you have installed a previous version of any of Eset's products you must completely remove it by uninstalling it as well as deleting all registry keys it has left behind. If you do not do the new installation will not be cracked. I recommend uninstalling your previous product with YourUninstaller 2008 as it will do this all automatically. They're alternative methods of cracking NOD32 such as using programs like NodLogin but I have found the extended trials to be the easiest. Once cracked NOD32 shows zero nag screens or "Buy Me" icons.

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Norton's nag screen.


This is a section where Norton was beaten by NOD32. Norton has exactly been cracked, it has a trial reset program which much start with Windows. This wouldn't be a problem if it didn't show a nag screen each time you click the Norton icon your system tray. Note, Norton does not show this screen ever by itself. If only shows the nag screen when you open the program to perform a system scan or change a setting. This is something I can learn to live with as I am willing to trade added protection and a faster anti-virus in exchange for a nag screen to change my settings.


Conclusion
The End.

I have been using NOD32 for months, I've been very happy with the low amount of memory it consumed and even ran it on my old Celeron D, 256MB RAM, 160GB 5400RPM Hard drive, desktop. Until last week. I have compared a number of aspects of each anti-virus and neither of them took the "W" in each category but overall Symantec's Norton Anti-Virus 2009 has beaten Eset's NOD32 Anti-Virus. It is faster, it has more options and it has better protection statistics. The only aspect that should make you second guess Norton is the nag screen. I have gotten over it but I know a number of people will not make the switch just because of the annoying screen. Overall Norton Anti-Virus is a better solution for both protection and saving system resources.

If you any questions about this comparison, either product, or a request for me to compare other products feel free to ask.


Additional Notes
Things left out of the comparison (Norton Gamer's Edition).

I did some minor tests on Norton's newest product, their Gamer Edition. In these tests I found that it uses around the same (at times 1MB or so more) then NAV when idle, but even more memory when scanning. It's main strengths are it loads much faster at boot and there is no nag screen after cracking with the same crack! I have also included this link incase you would like to try this version as well.

Please do not post this on other forums or websites without my permission, instead link them to this thread.


If you any questions about this comparison, either product, or a request for me to compare other products feel free to ask.
 
27 comments
lol it doesnt matter if norton is faster in some areas, its still a pile of useless crap (which once caused so much damage to my system i had to format it).

NOD32 forever, norton can't even be compared to it. That's like comparing shit (norton) and gold (nod32).
 
norton suck cocks
eset piss all over nortn

and if you just get the nod32 then norton will not touch it
its only because eset now have the security suite that it uses more resources
 
lol it doesnt matter if norton is faster in some areas, its still a pile of useless crap (which once caused so much damage to my system i had to format it).

NOD32 forever, norton can't even be compared to it. That's like comparing shit (norton) and gold (nod32).
Norton is faster in all areas as well as it has much better detection rates which is why we use anti-virus software in the first place. The facts are right infront of you, it's your choice if you would like to be ignorant and ignore them.
norton suck cocks
eset piss all over nortn

and if you just get the nod32 then norton will not touch it
its only because eset now have the security suite that it uses more resources
I compared apples with apples (an expression..), I used the barebones anti-virus from Norton and the barebones anti-virus from Eset NOD32, I'm not going to compare a suite to a AV only.
 
Half of the detections made by Norton are false. Whenever I'm working on a program, I'll run it on VirusTotal.com to make sure no one will get a detection and start accusing me of something. 9 times out of ten, Norton will detect one of my programs, for no reason at all...
 
Half of the detections made by Norton are false. Whenever I'm working on a program, I'll run it on VirusTotal.com to make sure no one will get a detection and start accusing me of something. 9 times out of ten, Norton will detect one of my programs, for no reason at all...
Amazing what people will say before looking at the research done by others and how protective everyone is over NOD32 :P

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Few = False Positives
Fast = On-Demand Scanning Speed
Advanced = Certification Level
 
lmao Demonik, I'm not being ignorant.
I just know for a fact that norton clings onto every corner of your computer and, even after being removed, will leave a load of rubbish behind as well as modifying important system files.

So yeah, obviously NOD32 is better. Even if norton is faster, it's still total crap compared to NOD32.

Also, the reason norton picks up more viruses is because it calls things viruses which aren't actually infectious. For example, norton will pick up some keygens as viruses just because they are keygens, they don't actually contain any malicious code, norton just doesn't like you using keygens. NOD32 however, will not pick up these keygens as they are not putting you at risk.
The same goes for PHP shells and such.

Btw, just for your interest, you came to wrong place to argue that norton is good. Considering the fact half of warez hate norton (as all those people know what it does to your system and such, unlike you), you won't get anywhere trying to protect a pile of shit.
 
my mom has just brought a new PC for my brother for Xmas lol and the first thing i am doing is formatting it and reinstalling lol it comes with norton AV and you cant actually fully remove that shit without formatting it!! lol
 
lmao Demonik, I'm not being ignorant.
I just know for a fact that norton clings onto every corner of your computer and, even after being removed, will leave a load of rubbish behind as well as modifying important system files.

So yeah, obviously NOD32 is better. Even if norton is faster, it's still total crap compared to NOD32.

Also, the reason norton picks up more viruses is because it calls things viruses which aren't actually infectious. For example, norton will pick up some keygens as viruses just because they are keygens, they don't actually contain any malicious code, norton just doesn't like you using keygens. NOD32 however, will not pick up these keygens as they are not putting you at risk.
The same goes for PHP shells and such.

Btw, just for your interest, you came to wrong place to argue that norton is good. Considering the fact half of warez hate norton (as all those people know what it does to your system and such, unlike you), you won't get anywhere trying to protect a pile of shit.

I didn't come to argue, I came to post a comparison I wrote showing that the number one reason people hate Norton is bullshit, speed. Everyone said "Norton is teh slowest lol" so I proved them wrong. I just showed you Norton has a good rating for false positives meaning few are detected. I've been running it for the last week and I've probably downloaded around 50 files in that time in which no keygen or crack was detected as a virus. NOD32 has shit detection rates which is the main reason you run an anti-virus program, to protect your computer. The tests show it, Google it if you want. You have shown zero evidence that makes me want to switch back to an Eset product, and I will if someone proves it beats Norton in something important. That may be hard to do as tests by professionals (AV Comparatives etc.) have shown it detects and removes infections better and I just proved your system takes a lighter hit to run it...
 
Amazing what people will say before looking at the research done by others and how protective everyone is over NOD32 :P

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Few = False Positives
Fast = On-Demand Scanning Speed
Advanced = Certification Level

I don't think you comprehend why I said I choose not to go with Norton. It is simply because I am a programmer, and my stuff is constantly being detected by Norton for no reason at all.
 
Yes I can comprehend what you are saying, I'm not ESL.

I posted that because that is from a professional source which is more believable then me telling you. I bet Norton can be tweaked to lower the detection of your files but if it is picking them up you must to coming close to a script or program that has the characteristics of a viral infection.
 
lol seriously demonik, NOD32 is better than norton, nothing can change that.
I mean, oh wow you got some random stats saying norton is faster, any random kid can make those up. Run norton on a system with nothing on it then run nod32 while playing a game. I mean come on, if you think norton is good and nod32 is shit, you are a COMPLETE NUT.
 
You still have showed me no reason to switch back to NOD32....

  • Norton has better detection rates
  • Norton uses less resources
  • Norton has more bundled features (which normally I wouldn't point out but it also uses these features and still uses less resources)

I'm being open minded and asking you to tell me why NOD32 is better, you however seem to be stuck with NOD32 for no reason.
 
its a proven fact nod detect more threats than norton do

this is proven every year in the reviews

nod just needs someone with half a brain to understand it maybe this is where you go wrong
 
Demonik i couldn't care less if you switch back or not, therefore I give you no reasons.
If you want to hate NOD32 do it in your head, don't come here arguing against EVERYONE's opinion.
 
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