MI5 chief defends spying on web traffic as vital for national security

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MI5 chief defends spying on web traffic as vital for national security

The head of the UK’s spy agencies has said the monitoring of internet traffic is vital for stopping terrorist threats.

Andrew Parker Security Service Director General speaking at the Royal United Services InstituteSpeaking on Tuesday evening, the director general of the security services Andrew Parker (pictured) dismissed concerns that the UK has been engaging in blanket spying as “utter nonsense”, and said publishing information on spying techniques had provided terrorists with a "gift".

His comments come in the wake of the PRISM and Tempora spying revelations that broke earlier this year. These revealed that both US and UK spying organisations, such as the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), have been monitoring huge amounts of global internet traffic.

He said that the use of such techniques was vital to keep track of the latest terrorists as they use internet communications to plot terror attacks all the time.

“Technologies advance all the time. But MI5 will still need the ability to read or listen to terrorists' communications if we are to have any prospect of knowing their intentions and stopping them,” he said at the event hosted by the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI).

“The converse to this would be to accept that terrorists should have means of communication that they can be confident are beyond the sight of MI5 or GCHQ acting with proper legal warrant. Does anyone actually believe that? “

He went on to justify any snooping by claiming it was only ever done for the public good and focused on those suspected of terrorism, rather than blanket monitoring citizens at large.

“Let me be clear – we only apply intrusive tools and capabilities against terrorists and others threatening national security. The law requires that we only collect and access information that we really need to perform our functions,” he said.

“In some quarters there seems to be a vague notion that we monitor everyone and all their communications, browsing at will through people's private lives for anything that looks interesting. That is, of course, utter nonsense.”

He also hit out at the leaks of confidential documents that laid bare the extent of the spying programme. He said publishing the information had put national security at risk.

“It causes enormous damage to make public the reach and limits of GCHQ techniques. Such information hands the advantage to the terrorists. It is the gift they need to evade us and strike at will,” he said. “Unfashionable as it might seem, that is why we must keep secrets secret, and why not doing so causes such harm.”

Revelations around the spying programmes hit the headlines in June, after Edward Snowden leaked documents that revealed the existence and scope of the spying programmes.

This led to huge uproar among the tech and wider political landscape, and led to more revelations that the US had been spying on EU discussions and that many encryption technologies had been purposefully engineered to allow snoops easy access.


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“In some quarters there seems to be a vague notion that we monitor everyone and all their communications, browsing at will through people's private lives for anything that looks interesting. That is, of course, utter nonsense.”

Its true that its utter nonsense the notion of everyone being monitored like that, basic math proves that lol. There is only 3,800 people working in MI5 and around 60 million people in the UK.
 
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I guess he likes to monitor which females watch porn and would love to date sexually excited women ;)
 
Its true that its utter nonsense the notion of everyone being monitored like that, basic math proves that lol. There is only 3,800 people working in MI5 and around 60 million people in the UK.
Regardless of being able to monitor everyone or not, my private life is my private life. Any and all monitoring of anyone or any sector of the public should only be done when there is a solid and duely documented ongoing criminal investigation and.... ONLY with the permission of the courts.

This "let's see who we can catch doing something wrong" bullshit has got to go.
 
Its true that its utter nonsense the notion of everyone being monitored like that, basic math proves that lol. There is only 3,800 people working in MI5 and around 60 million people in the UK.
Regardless of being able to monitor everyone or not, my private life is my private life. Any and all monitoring of anyone or any sector of the public should only be done when there is a solid and duely documented ongoing criminal investigation and.... ONLY with the permission of the courts.

This "let's see who we can catch doing something wrong" bullshit has got to go.

No one knows what your doing, the computers auto tag items as either important or non important. Its bad that they are doing it but it isn't something to be extremely paranoid about.
 
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No one knows what your doing, the computers auto tag items as either important or non important. Its bad that they are doing it but it isn't something to be extremely paranoid about.

*** Paranoid *** Don't try putting words in my mouth. I never once used the word "paranoid".

What the government is doing is wrong.. plain and simple as that. There is a process of conducting a criminal investigation and a legal system which INVOLVES OBTAINING the consent of a courts in order to engage in covert surveillance as part of a current and ongoing investigation.

I expect the government and all branches of law enforcement to respect the law by working within it. This bullshit that they're doing now doesn't and it has got to go.
 
The programs are looking for ties to international organisations its exempt from the normal rules for police investigations.
 
In the United States, the Supreme Court ruled that intelligence gathering for national security is exempt form warrants.

Warrentless surveillance is only allowed under a very certain condition.

It is....
The incidental surveillance of identified persons that are within the United States that have been in contact with "known terrorists" as is shown in foreign intelligence that had been collected by the NSA as part of the war on terror.

Again we see that they're only allowed to legally go after certain identified people or groups and only as part of an current and ongoing investigation. Henceforth the current problems and controversy of the NSA's overcollection of domestic communications. Furthermore the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 clearly states that the data collection and behavior of all foreign intelligence be performed in a manner that is fully in accordance with the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Once again this I'll say that the bullshit that they're doing now doesn't legally conform and it has got to go.
 
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Hello Jackie and Lou

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You're very lucky! You must have just got your visit in before the bunker tours have ended due to a problem with the ventilation system that requires a complicated repair and rebuild.

The bunker tours are due to start again on Good Friday 2013

(Details correct at the date of writing in June 2012)

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Find the RAF Holmpton bunker a few miles out of Withernsea, close to the village of Holmpton.

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