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agreed and although i don't use ddlcms anymore its an awesome script, and i have a few minor mods i have done for it,

DDLCMS is a good ddl script for any webmaster imo, just why not just leave it alone?
 
Sp32 said:
Yeah, what is the point of doing this because the software is free T_T
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its free for us, but the real thing is ld doesnt want us to change his sharingzone links with ours because then we cut out his piece of our pie. the way its setup when you install it is with the "high speed mirrors"
leading to sharingzone we all know about, thing is if a user purchases from sharingzone using the default link LD gets paid. its a GENIOUS marketting plan. i mean think about it you develop something great, release it for free. people are going to use it ALOT, EVERYWHERE. and built in are ads that get you paid. instead of one or two sites with your ads now you get every site who uses the script promoting your ads.

i like ddl cms except for the skin(s?) and some other minor features, one being the customization aspect.

imo both parties are right, (jmz&ld) brandon should gtfo though*.

cheers :)
dot
 
Little Dragon, its understandable that you consider JMZ to be your rival/competitor... but we all have competitors/rivals in our own businesses, and we don't go bad mouthing them constantly without any reason. Doing this doesn't make you smart or doesn't make the other members respect you more. Its not like JMZ is advising people to decrypt your script and remove sharingzone and replace it with latestdownload links. The only thing he did before was alert users of that advertisement email sent out by DDLCMS, and ONLY after he made that thread you decide to provide the option to disable it on the next release. So why is that mate? Probably JMZ hit a nerve and now you are pissed off at him.... but bad mouthing him constantly just for that makes you look more guilty.

About the script, I agree with you that users should follow the TOS if they use the script, no arguement on that.
 
Little Dragon said:
You guys miss the whole point. I don't care about the link back really (but kinda do).

I know people can un-encrypt the script -- that's why not a whole lot of effort was put into it. it's just basic encryption. But showing how to do it publicly, or distributing it like that, would be damaging to our contract with Sharingzone.

I do know if the script is decrypted. Lets leave it at that. I really don't care honestly, but a post like THIS will not get you any brownie points.

There is our contract, and there is our Terms of Service. If you don't abide by them, whether you agree with them or not, you are breaking them. If you don't like the Terms of Service, don't use it -- go use another free script.
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Welcome to the warez world. What you think, if we have nulled vB we shouldnt use it?
 
CrucifynDi3 said:
Little Dragon, its understandable that you consider JMZ to be your rival/competitor... but we all have competitors/rivals in our own businesses, and we don't go bad mouthing them constantly without any reason. Doing this doesn't make you smart or doesn't make the other members respect you more. Its not like JMZ is advising people to decrypt your script and remove sharingzone and replace it with latestdownload links. The only thing he did before was alert users of that advertisement email sent out by DDLCMS, and ONLY after he made that thread you decide to provide the option to disable it on the next release. So why is that mate? Probably JMZ hit a nerve and now you are pissed off at him.... but bad mouthing him constantly just for that makes you look more guilty.

About the script, I agree with you that users should follow the TOS if they use the script, no arguement on that.
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I agree, JmZ said clearly he thinks "If the owner made it encrypted, it should stay that way". Little Dragon, there is no need to lash out (sp?) at him. I agree even if people do privately decode your script they should keep it to themselve and be private, not post it on a webmaster forum, even though it's common knowledge, there is no reason to disgrace the owner of the script who is an active member on the forums. There should be a little more loyalty and respect than that.
 
You made a script for the "warez scene", what did you expect. Im sorry but i wont be able to visit this forum anymore. To the friend/s that i made while i was here it was great knowing you.
 
Brandon_R said:
Im sorry but i wont be able to visit this forum anymore. To the friend/s that i made while i was here it was great knowing you.
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no offense but you sound really soft lol. i know i said oh brandon should gtfo but i didnt really mean gtfo like go now lol. TBH even though alot of us knew how to do this before its only the fact that you stated it publicly and its prolly linkbacked to google by now haha. idc personally that you shared it. even though i may have said it in that manner.

see you around the scene?
regards,
dot
 
Don't try and make a business out of warez and expect it to be like in the corporate world. IMHO no1 should bitch at Brandon for "exposing" this info. This is the warez scene. To bad some people are quick to forget this is the wild wild west.

LD clearly supports warez by creating this script for the scene, being a member here and having a warez forum. But when someone contributes to the warez community by making a (his) script truly free then it becomes an issue 8-) ? Go legit if you want your ToS to actually mean something. I mean propz for the script but you are in no position to complain when this kind of stuff happens. No one here is.

I have no problem with you LD. You seem like a good, trustworthy guy. But you knew this was coming even before you started developing the script. Warez and profit isn't a smart business model.
 
^ I don't agree with you hyperz.

just because its the warez scene doesn't mean we are moral-less motherf*ckers with no respect for our community and its members. Warez is about f*cking billion dollar corporations like M$, Adobe and RIAA and helping the smaller ppl (us), not f*cking each other webmasters and making money.

Example : you claim sharpleech to be free, yet you donot release the source code.. why? it wud definately help the warez scene rite? the application if it was open source cud hav been developed into something much more greater. but you fear someone's gonna change it and remove your credits. not so much warez spirit hmm?
 
Dotcom said:
no offense but you sound really soft lol. i know i said oh brandon should gtfo but i didnt really mean gtfo like go now lol. TBH even though alot of us knew how to do this before its only the fact that you stated it publicly and its prolly linkbacked to google by now haha. idc personally that you shared it. even though i may have said it in that manner.

see you around the scene?
regards,
dot
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Sorry i said that, it was in the spur of the moment. I won't leave this webmaster site. After all im only 2 days old. Of course im going to be treated like a newfag. I guess im being a bit of a cyberj37 :P
 
yeah, warez isn't about removing ownership its about sharing, and LD shares this script..

If I made a program similar to sharpleech then someone went around saying they made it, that would obviously piss me off due to the time and effort what went into the creation of it
 
Little Dragon said:
Anyone caught posting things like this, or using an unencrypted version of DDLCMS, will be blacklisted AND have all his sites blacklisted in all future releases of this script -- including the new release which creates katz-friendly pages pre-approved by Katz staff), you will be reported to Katz for blacklisting and banning, as well as banned from promoting Sharingzone.
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lmao what exactly would we be blacklisted from
also why would katz give a fuck if were using a decrypted version of your WCDDL edit
also im pretty sure most people could live with out using sharingzone

hope i sounded like a douschebag
-NarutoROOT
 
Everyone needs to lay low. LD you have received a warning. JmZ hasn't said anything to offend you in any way and you kinda personally attacked him with assumptions that aren't true.

Can you imagine if all the actors and directors of the movies we downloaded came bitching in here? Or can you imagine all the software developers come and bitch? I don't think so because then this place would suck.

There are people who spend 100x more on creating applications, scripts, movies for everyone, and they all get ripped off by warez.

If you really wanted to take things big you could have easily gotten yourself an LLC company name and start programming under that company name. Then if anyone abuses your TOS you could just sue them. You picked the easy and cheap way.

Also try think of yourself how are you going to find out if someone runs an unencrypted version of DDLCMS on his server? You can't, so no need in making such a post.

The way to unencrypt shouldn't be posted publicly, but this IS a warez webmaster forum.
 
Whoo said:
Everyone needs to lay low. LD you have received a warning. JmZ hasn't said anything to offend you in any way and you kinda personally attacked him with assumptions that aren't true.

Can you imagine if all the actors and directors of the movies we downloaded came bitching in here? Or can you imagine all the software developers come and bitch? I don't think so because then this place would suck.

There are people who spend 100x more on creating applications, scripts, movies for everyone, and they all get ripped off by warez.

If you really wanted to take things big you could have easily gotten yourself an LLC company name and start programming under that company name. Then if anyone abuses your TOS you could just sue them. You picked the easy and cheap way.

Also try think of yourself how are you going to find out if someone runs an unencrypted version of DDLCMS on his server? You can't, so no need in making such a post.

The way to unencrypt shouldn't be posted publicly, but this IS a warez webmaster forum.
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He coundn't sue if they were offshore anyway could he?
 
CrucifynDi3 said:
^ I don't agree with you hyperz.

just because its the warez scene doesn't mean we are moral-less motherf*ckers with no respect for our community and its members. Warez is about f*cking billion dollar corporations like M$, Adobe and RIAA and helping the smaller ppl (us), not f*cking each other webmasters and making money.

Example : you claim sharpleech to be free, yet you donot release the source code.. why? it wud definately help the warez scene rite? the application if it was open source cud hav been developed into something much more greater. but you fear someone's gonna change it and remove your credits. not so much warez spirit hmm?
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I understand your point bro. And I do agree with the fact that we need to have morals. But at the end of the day software is software. How can one share or help share a nulled vBulletin (example) and the next day be against a 'nulled' DDLCMS? That's some bipolar morality right there :P. Besides, DDLCMS is clearly not about sharing. Or atleast that's not the main goal of it. Making profit is what its mainly about. Making profit is what MS, Adobe, etc are about... I hope you see where I'm coming from.

I would be the first to complain when some kid rips the credits/linkback off of free software. But DDLCMS isn't free. You just pay with forced ads instead of money.


Now about the SharpLeech statement. I have never asked money for it, I never put anything into that program that would generate profit in one form or another. Hell, there isn't even a donate button in the program. SharpLeech is as free as free gets. All of my programs are. But don't link opensource to free. That's a mistake many make.

The reason the source was never released is because a few weeks after the initial beta some were already adding trojans to it and calling it 'beta 3'. Because of that I decided not to release the source because it doesn't take a lot of smarts to realize that it would do more damage than good. Some would just take the source, attach dodgy shit to the login process and steal users login info (often of forum owners). People who know how to program most likely know how to build a leecher since its quite simple. And I've given parts of the source away when someone needed help with coding a similar program.

And as I said, ripping off credits is something that I'm against. But should someone take the credits of any of my programs you wouldn't see me throwing king size red colored posts around.

Furthermore I did not obfuscate the SharpLeech CIL bytecode. Meaning that it can be decompiled with ease, modified and recompiled (if the coder can program CIL by hand). A few weeks ago narutoroot told me he had decompiled the program but you didn't see me get mental on him. I don't care about what people do with the stuff I contribute to the scene as long as it doesn't harm anyone (trojans etc, not talking about $) because I made my stuff as a contribution with no hidden interests in money or other forms of profit. Don't be quick with assuming stuff because assumptions are just that. If someone removes "made by hyperz" I don't lose anything, therefore I don't care about that.

Hmm, this text is becoming a wee bit big. Anyway like I said, I hope you see where I'm coming from. I have nothing against anyone. I just like to express my point of view which is, I believe, better than following the hurd to make me look cool.

/preach
 
Hyperz said:
I would be the first to complain when some kid rips the credits/linkback off of free software. But DDLCMS isn't free. You just pay with forced ads instead of money.
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Let's clear something up right here. Forced ads? Not free?
  1. The user is FREELY ABLE to edit and replace or remove EVERY Sharingzone ad that somes in the script, via the Admin CP (hell, you can put LD ads all over for all I care).
  2. There is only two things we don't want changed:
    1. One (1) sponsored search result
    2. One (1) text linkback to DDLCMS, that's it!
  3. We already addressed the auto-responder email issue, you can TURN IT OFF in the coming release of the script
So what's the problem here? Why does someone need to (as crucifyndi3 said) disgrace, and disrespect, all the work that went into this script by making such a post?

The script is free to download and install with FREE tech support, in spite of:

I, and my dev. team, have put in thousands of $$$ and hundreds of hours into making this script as versatile and customizable as possible for all scene webmasters who wish to use it (you will see this a lot more in the coming release, which will be launched with 7 new premium skins).

We've taken action on EVERY SINGLE MOD/REQUEST that came from everyone, and spent our time putting them all to effect in (coming release) the script.

Realistically, you could install the script, be able to fully modify the header, left pane, right pane, footer, LE, instant LE, Partners, Blacklist, Whitelist, VIP sites, auto allow -- you get the picture, and you can remove every ad or change them all to whatever you wish, with the exception of one sponsored search result, and the linkback at the bottom.

For a free script, with free tech support, free installation (mind you, which is fully customizable and skinnable), with only SOME parts of it encrypted -- is that such a crime? ^o)

I am to be ok with some n00b goon coming to WJ and posting how to decrypt my work? And listen to JmZ bashing again? What about respect?

JmZ: lashing out at JmZ was not a good thing to do -- I admit. I sincerely apologize (bug ffs, stop bashing my work in your sly little way).

Frankly, you could decrypt the script and use it and I wouldn't give a rats ass. Posting something like this (first post), and you're crossing the line. Jumping on the bandwagon with it, again -- where is the respect?

All I wanted to point out was if you make a post like this one, you are dissing me. If you diss me, you will be in my bad books. Should I be persecuted for that?

I am a good person, I realize what the scene is about, and I respect everyone -- that's what life is about -- nulled VB or not, decrypted script or not.
 
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