Chris2009 Scammer

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Well, the user Chris2009 had PMed me here and hired me to make a image host design. I made it, showed him the design preview, and he agreed. I asked for payment and he says I ripped another design ? lol

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  1. http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6540/77098221.png
  2. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1887/20173263.png
  3. http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2149/19389392.png
  4. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2181/11979841.png
  5. http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/369/34176718.png
  6. http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/6294/68218928.png
  7. http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7248/87455690.png
  8. http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8092/14208229.png
  9. http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1052/45869542.png
Brief Explanation :

He hired me to make a image host design (Preview : #1 | #2). I completed the design and asked him whether he likes it or not and does he wants any changes to be made (refer screenshot #3). Then he said he sent me payment (refer #4) though it was a false payment, I mean he was making me a fool. I checked my Paypal at that moment and saw no payment was received. I said him that I didn't receive the payment (refer #4,#5). Then he says he cannot pay me at that moment (then how did he claimed that he sent payment ? lol) as he was on his iPhone (refer #5). I said, alright until you send me payment I cannot send you the PSD. I wanted to clear it that whether he was Chris from Chrixel.com, if he would be then there would be no fear of scamming (I assumed that) (refer #6). He says Yes, he is friend of Exel (refer #6). So I sent him the PSD (refer #6) because I know Exel is not a scammer and that his friend would not scam either. Then I went offline as I was going to college. Then after 3-4 days I checked my Paypal and saw he didn't paid me yet. So I offline messaged him (refer #7). He came online and was ignoring me first, then he told me was busy with submissions, so it was Ok. He claimed that he didn't received the template lol (refer #7) though you can see in screenshot #6 I had sent him the download link and he even downloaded it. I resent him the download link and he downloaded it again. This time he says that the design I made was a ripped design ? LOL (refer #8) He says his dad didn't liked the design and that he cannot pay me. I said, thats not my problem, you should have not said me OK when I showed you the design (refer #8). I asked him to pay me as I don't care if your dad liked it or not, I want the money for my work. He said, he cannot pay me as his Dad isn't allowing him to use his CC to payme. I said, that this is a problem between a father and son and I cannot help it (refer #9). All I want is 25$ for the design I made. And now he is ignoring me on MSN. So I created this thread.

Beware of Chris2009, he is a scammer.

Thankyou for reading everything xD

I'm frustrated because I made the design and that too I wasted my study hours for it :( and now, I'm not being paid. 25$ is alot for me because I respect money and every single penny is worth for me.

I know, he wouldn't be banned because the deal went through MSN, but this is just a warning to all others that not to deal with that guy as he still a kid and would not pay you.
 
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yeah he scammed gigawiz before guess he never learns yet all his designs are infact rips to he just changes images and css a little claims as his xD
 
Sigh, he has 24 hours to reply and give you your money that you deserve. This is really sad. Also next time you should have him send you a pm to verify he was really chris. Btw chris, exiles friend can do FCC on his own as he is really good as well.

Just a shame. Don't trust anyone in the scene.
 
yeah he scammed gigawiz before guess he never learns yet all his designs are infact rips to he just changes images and css a little claims as his xD
Well, I had helped him before in finding some Wordpress Themes :( at that time I never knew he was a scammer.
ScammerJunction got another Scammer...LoL
xD
Sigh, he has 24 hours to reply and give you your money that you deserve. This is really sad. Also next time you should have him send you a pm to verify he was really chris. Btw chris, exiles friend can do FCC on his own as he is really good as well.

Just a shame. Don't trust anyone in the scene.

I know Chris from Chrixel and I even have him on MSN. I just got confused between the two lol. Chris is a designer himself, but I thought, he might be outsourcing due to lack of time :( Thats why I was confirming whether he was the same chris, friend of Exel, and he said yes, another lie. I made a mistake and I learnt that not to trust anyone :s and now I'll be taking 40% advance before hand for designing.
Sry, ScamJunction got another scammer on the list :(
:( Its really sad, people do such things :(
 
dont feel bad, awhile back i was searching for a vps and he says "sure i got one, $25/month" so i paid him for 7 months worth ($180) and he gave me a shared account on a friend's (of mine) server, and disappeared. He blocked me on msn, banned me from his sites and still no $ or vps. so i went to the server owner and he deleted the acc and sold the domain he was using >.<
 
Can we see the psd? :P

Also, im sorry about you being scammed, but you had your whole dealing on msn, what do you expect? but I am not the one to judge, I got scammed $50 from a person elio supported, not to mention the countless dollars wasted on uploaders that don't finish their quota.
We need a third party company, kinda like escrow and paypal but for wjunction alone and for small stuff like this. (This is my idea and you can't take it :P) Where they hold onto both sides and record all chats in between.
Only problem is, who is trusted enough to run it? but yeah, if we could find that person then everyone would love this idea.
 
Can we see the psd? :P

Also, im sorry about you being scammed, but you had your whole dealing on msn, what do you expect? but I am not the one to judge, I got scammed $50 from a person elio supported, not to mention the countless dollars wasted on uploaders that don't finish their quota.
We need a third party company, kinda like escrow and paypal but for wjunction alone and for small stuff like this. (This is my idea and you can't take it :P) Where they hold onto both sides and record all chats in between.
Only problem is, who is trusted enough to run it? but yeah, if we could find that person then everyone would love this idea.


I really liked your idea :D
 
First and foremost Chris2009 =/= Chri5

Also it sucks that you got scammed but you never ever design a template without getting at least 50%-75% of the money right away since templates are time consuming. It was foolish of you to assume he was another person since this is the internet people lie. Hopefully you learn from this experience because you have no one to blame but yourself. Unless you have dealt with that person before, never start designing something that is time consuming without getting some money first in advance.
 
First and foremost Chris2009 =/= Chri5

Also it sucks that you got scammed but you never ever design a template without getting at least 50%-75% of the money right away since templates are time consuming. It was foolish of you to assume he was another person since this is the internet people lie. Hopefully you learn from this experience because you have no one to blame but yourself. Unless you have dealt with that person before, never start designing something that is time consuming without getting some money first in advance.

Yes, I got confused. I learn my lesson. Now I'll be asking some advance before starting he designing job

dont feel bad, awhile back i was searching for a vps and he says "sure i got one, $25/month" so i paid him for 7 months worth ($180) and he gave me a shared account on a friend's (of mine) server, and disappeared. He blocked me on msn, banned me from his sites and still no $ or vps. so i went to the server owner and he deleted the acc and sold the domain he was using >.<
WOW ! Its sad that you lost 180$ :( That mofo is a sad creature :'(
Can we see the psd? :P

Also, im sorry about you being scammed, but you had your whole dealing on msn, what do you expect? but I am not the one to judge, I got scammed $50 from a person elio supported, not to mention the countless dollars wasted on uploaders that don't finish their quota.
We need a third party company, kinda like escrow and paypal but for wjunction alone and for small stuff like this. (This is my idea and you can't take it :P) Where they hold onto both sides and record all chats in between.
Only problem is, who is trusted enough to run it? but yeah, if we could find that person then everyone would love this idea.
Check the design screenshot :p

Your idea is nice, but again, there would be a problem of finding a trustable owner for that type of site.
 
Mods should be used as escrow here... like in other forums!

This would not happends if..
Blaze sends the psd to a mod
Chris sends the money to a mod
Mod sends the psd to chris and the money to blaze

Iv seen this kind of escrow use many times and it works!
Sadly mods in this forum just insult members and abuse their power! :)
 
Mods should be us as escrow here... like in other forums!

This would not happends if..
Blaze sends the psd to a mod
Chris sends the money to a mod
Mod sends the psd to chris and the money to blaze

Iv seen this kind of escrow use many times and it works!
hmm.. You have a point there (y)
 
Mods should be used as escrow here... like in other forums!

This would not happends if..
Blaze sends the psd to a mod
Chris sends the money to a mod
Mod sends the psd to chris and the money to blaze

Iv seen this kind of escrow use many times and it works!

TBH IMHO! You iz right :P

Sorry for the loss Blaze, and yea do what Flash said from next time and I know you will. :D
 
Mods should be used as escrow here... like in other forums!

This would not happends if..
Blaze sends the psd to a mod
Chris sends the money to a mod
Mod sends the psd to chris and the money to blaze

Iv seen this kind of escrow use many times and it works!
Sadly mods in this forum just insult members and abuse their power! :)

Nice idea in theory, But what happens, if someone uses a hacked paypal and the mod's paypal get's limited or cannot send to certain countrys?
 
Maybe mods don't do that because this isn't exactly fully a marketplace forum even though there is a marketplace section. And this deal didn't go through on WJ, why would it matter to WJ? Not siding with the scammer just saying typing out my opinion.

Sorry for your loss Blaze.
 
When I bought mafiaw.com off of Chris there was a custom skin for it that wasn't finished and I paid him extra to finish it. He said he would have it done in 2 days and never finished it. Instead he sent out a mass email from the admincp telling members about his new site.
 
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