Thoughts On WHMCS License

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buying the damn license wont hurt u for sake of ur customers

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There any many paranoid people around here also in USA based hosting 1 DMCA can bring down ur company :)
 
buying the damn license wont hurt u for sake of ur customers

Edit :

There any many paranoid people around here also in USA based hosting 1 DMCA can bring down ur company :)

Its not going to help my customers either... me paying 15 a month wont affect them at all other than perhaps make me go up on my prices.

Whats the smily for? my site isnt in us.
 
What? so paying 15 a month will help me answer support questions? because im pretty sure that everyone who does still gets stupid support questions that can be found easy on google. Like i said ive never been asked about WHMCS. i have been asked many things but not that one. If anyone here dont want to use me becouse of that im sorry but i dont see how that makes me a good or bad admin. Im sorry but when i go to a host and they dont even have a site its just some WHMCS install with the default theme to me that makes someone not look liek they know what they are doing, but see i hold that at a different place than some of you, that dont mean i want to pass a rule that everyone has to have a 5 star site to host sites.

I haven't said that paying for WHMCS license would help you solve server related problem. I said your clients would trust you more if you pay for the Software you are using.

If you want to be a Hoster you need to be a System Administrator. You need the required knowledge, so the whole point is. You need to invest in your business if you want to earn money. If you have no server administration related knowledge, you need to get yourself a SysAdmin. And lots of other things, web hosting is a tricky business. It's not for everyone.
 
So my time isnt worth anything?

And when did making somehitng to show clients not count as an investment?

You dont seem to understand how a company works

Show something to your clients? mmm you run a web design "company" obviously you have to have a good website, you arent really getting a plus or something.

Again if you cant afford a $15 licence try to be more professional and better web design will help you too that way you might get more clients, so you can afford a licence.

Good luck with your "company" buddy.
 
I haven't said that paying for WHMCS license would help you solve server related problem. I said your clients would trust you more if you pay for the Software you are using.

If you want to be a Hoster you need to be a System Administrator. You need the required knowledge, so the whole point is. You need to invest in your business if you want to earn money. If you have no server administration related knowledge, you need to get yourself a SysAdmin. And lots of other things, web hosting is a tricky business. It's not for everyone.

What does this have to do with being a System Administrator? and is that what it is to be a good host or paying 15 a month for whmcs? im confused because it seems you guys dont know what it takes as you keep saying different things.
 
You dont seem to understand how a company works

Show something to your clients? mmm you run a web design "company" obviously you have to have a good website, you arent really getting a plus or something.

Again if you cant afford a $15 licence try to be more professional, get a better web design and you might get more clients so you can afford a licence..

Good luck with your "company" buddy.

The site didnt start out as hosting. i already went over this. i dont think a 5 star site is really needed for hosting so your welcome to take back your insult at anytime. I dont think i been un pro yet, yes a little in this thread but the reason i would say is somehitng to get upset about. other than that how am i not being pro?
 
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The site didnt start out as hosting. i already went over this. i dont think a 5 star site is really needed for hosting so your welcome to take back your insult at anytime. I dont think i been un pro yet, yes a little in this thread but the reason i would say is somehitng to get upset about. other than that how am i not being pro?

5 Star website? what are you talking about?
Insult? When did I insulted you?
 
This agian ?

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What does this have to do with being a System Administrator? and is that what it is to be a good host or paying 15 a month for whmcs? im confused because it seems you guys dont know what it takes as you keep saying different things.

Come on Eric, don't play those mindfuck games. As most of us already said. If you want to be a good hoster you need to have knowledge, workers, you need to invest, you need to know the law.

If you rent a server from some Datacenter you can't say that you own a company. Why?


  • It's not registered in real life.
  • You can't do anything if police seizes the server.
  • You're just a client from the Datacenter.
  • Anyone can rent a server.
  • If you have outage at all it's because of your server related problems. Not some network problems. Even though WJunction Hosters always says that problem was network related.

Basically, everyone who rents a server from some Datacenter is called 'reseller'. Because he's reselling their services.
 
Come on Eric, don't play those mindfuck games. As most of us already said. If you want to be a good hoster you need to have knowledge, workers, you need to invest, you need to know the law.

If you rent a server from some Datacenter you can't say that you own a company. Why?


  • It's not registered in real life.
  • You can't do anything if police seizes the server.
  • You're just a client from the Datacenter.
  • Anyone can rent a server.
  • If you have outage at all it's because of your server related problems. Not some network problems. Even though WJunction Hosters always says that problem was network related.

Basically, everyone who rents a server from some Datacenter is called 'reseller'. Because he's reselling their services.


WTF is this all about? what does this have to do with this thread?
 
How come it has nothing to do with the thread? You said you own a 'Web Hosting Company'. So, how do you own it if you're renting a server? What do you offer that WorldStream doesn't offer? What should stop people from renting a server directly from WorldStream. Or Shared hosting from some other guy who is renting his server from WorldStream? All of you would have same uptime, and same everything. Basically, that's just plain reselling and nothing else.
 
Dude im just trying to make a few bucks here not rule the world or take over worldstream. Its hosting man not rocket science geez. Dont make it something its not like you have some big secret knowlage... its hosting.
 
Point proven Dlow thank you.

You guys here demanding that i pay the money do you "trust me" isnt making me care any more. I fail to see why i should want any of you has clients. Most of you know me well enough to know if you can trust me or not, what WHMCS has to do with it... i have no clue. And comments like Dlow left... i dont want has a client... so ill just still to the way i run my company now its not let me down yet, worked well for Vasthtml and its not doing bad for since83.
 
After reading this thread, I think there's no more point on arguing that you don't need a license.

I understand you don't need it because you are not gonna use the support as they won't be providing.
But its not only about support.
You don't have a warez site, you have a legal business. So its better to get a license for it just to show it to anyone in future if needed.

Another idea would be invest for a license for a month, it would give you clear cut idea whether you actually want it or not. There's no question of its need, in the whole thread you have been trying to explain that you don't need it.

I am myself thinking to upgrade to WHMCS just because it'll look good, I mean professional and I can show everyone that I am using licensed one.

Instead of paying $15 each month get a owned license. And if you think its too costly, try looking for second hand license. Someone who started a hosting site and planning to close it and won't be using it anymore, you can get from him for cheap price.
 
Most of you already know im probably one of the biggest fans of WHMCS there is. In fact i been using it almost 2 years to sell other things other than hosting. WHMCS is so much more than just to sell hosting most just dont see it. Been using it to sell themes and plugins for a while now.

However....

I do not OWN a license. Reason?

A license for WHMCS is just like any other license. 90% of it if just for support and updates, not the actual software which is why i dont have a license. Most of you have seen my WHMCS and there is no way WHMCS would ever support it due to the amount of work thats went into it. Also ill never be able to upgrade due to the same reason. So why would i pay $15 a month or more for 2 things ill never use?

Before you flame me about support? when i had a license when i hosted with cddhosting i sent in a ticket to whmcs asking for help with an issue. The wrote back and said they did not support any whmcs that had been modified which to me is useless. Im sorry if i dont want to pay $15 or more a month to people that wont help me and i cant even use there updates.

For those that havent seen my WHMCS you can view it at http://since83.com

I had a license for a long time, but just seems useless now. The fact that i cant post here anymore offering hosting because of not having a license is just crazy.

since whmcs does not cost alot, there's no reason not to pay for it. if you are a "company" what is a measly 15$ / month? -- if you don't want to pay monthly, buy an owned license like I did.
If you supposedly can't use "updates" because of your custom "theme", that's why you can buy an owned license, there's no reason to used null.
Using nulled software is just an excuse, because it really just means you are too cheap to buy the software.

By the way, having a custom theme is no reason not to update, it's just a choice. -- if you know so much about whmcs and such, then you would know that whmcs rarely makes changes to the key templates (used for the homepage, css, etc). And when they do make changes they have a chance log, and usually put the changes on a new line.

either way, just do what you want to do. no one really cares to be honest, and you'll never agree with what people are telling you.
 
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