Conspiracies, and how they work

[cvrle77]

Basic idea of politicians, is that they are law makers. When you have the power, to legalize every and any idea, can humans resist not to abuse it? It's highly unlikely. And there's a reason for that.

First, when you are in that power, you are sitting duck. You are human, against LARGE money. And you stand no chance. Money can buy life, and money can buy death. Someone with large sums of money can take you away, or, you can do what they say, and be rewarded.

Why would anyone in their common sense think, that there is ONE politician in this world, that isn't corrupted? Would you risk you head, heads of your wife, and children? Your parents? No matter how high your goals are for well being of the people you should lead, there's people with money, that can, and will blackmail you.
If you can read every day in your newspapers, that some stupid faggots are doing that (blackmailing others) on a small scale, imagine what others with hundreds of thousands times more money and logistic can do.

So, how this game really works?

Quite simple. I have money. You have ambition to become politician/president, and you want reforms in your country. I come to you and say: look, I'll fund your campaign, but I need few favors, when you come into power. I'll need this this and this law changed, and you'll get this sum of money for doing that. In case you won't, your kids are going in this and this school, and ...

Well, those are probably more diplomatic, but the essence is that.

That's how system works since the beginning of mankind.

And that is why we still have a 'system' of masters as government and slaves as people, and money to oil the machinery.

 

[Ash]

Touche

 

[Xanza]

Sure, it looks like that from the outside -- but you're saying nothing pertaining to human nature. You blame the policy makers, which yes, they're at fault, but the people whom are to blame are the ones accepting the bribes. The laymen.

Power only exists based upon that which we hold to be powerful. Think about it, what defines a powerful person; one who has a ton of political connections, who have connections to get things done. Without people, you're just another idiot in a storm of people trying to make a quick buck.

Example; You willfully help someone assassinate a political figure. Who's to blame? The psychotic assassin with an agenda, or the layman who willingly helped with the assassination for a bit of money.

Sure, it might seem like the assassin is totally to blame, but he's fucking crazy; personally, I blame the enablers.

 

[SJshah]

Conspiracies lead to questions. Questions will lead to answers, and those answers will lead to more questions. Hence, its all a matter of opinion. A conspiracy.

 

[Rick]

It's crazy, I remember watching an interview with David Rothschild, and he didn't even know who our current president was ! Democrats & Republicans, like SJ said, different mask, same face. There's no secret that government deliberately hides things from us. Mainly for securities purposes. But, understand something... Some of the conspiracies have truth behind them. There is a lot we don't know and will never know. For example:

This is JFK making a speech about secret societies and unraveling his plan(s) for them. He was the greatest president the United States ever had, (IMO) but was murdered 10 days after.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrfDsAWJAhw[/ame]

Not sure how many of you follow politics, but even now with Obama and Hilary Clinton. The Benghazi cover up and the ridiculous excuses and reasons they have for why four American Troops we murdered. Conveniently, after the fact, General David Petraeus resigned and even when Hilary Clinton was suppose to testify, she miraculously banged her head on something and was injured and couldn't testify.

I could go on and on but I'll wait for more replies. Great topic by the way, cvrle.

 

[cvrle77]

Sure, it looks like that from the outside -- but you're saying nothing pertaining to human nature. You blame the policy makers, which yes, they're at fault, but the people whom are to blame are the ones accepting the bribes. The laymen.

Policy makers = politicians = ones that accept the bribes = the laymen

Power only exists based upon that which we hold to be powerful. Think about it, what defines a powerful person; one who has a ton of political connections, who have connections to get things done. Without people, you're just another idiot in a storm of people trying to make a quick buck.

If you are taken away the freedom to speak freely, or caring your own gun for your protection, then it's not only the perception of the power. Someone is imposing his power on to you, and taking YOUR power away from you, as people, enslaving you. So, it's not just outside perception.

Example; You willfully help someone assassinate a political figure. Who's to blame? The psychotic assassin with an agenda, or the layman who willingly helped with the assassination for a bit of money.

Sure, it might seem like the assassin is totally to blame, but he's fucking crazy; personally, I blame the enablers.

There's absolutelly no doubt that both are guilty.

People and companies in developed countries are required to pay taxes based on earnings and revenue. It's not a choice, its a requirement for every person who works within the system, and it's illegal to dodge these taxes. Tax payers money fund all sorts of things from healthcare, community support, policing, firemen, maintenance of public areas and public buildings and welfare, but its also used to fund war, destruction and death all around the world. Now, does that mean that tax payers are responsible for funding wars, responsible for funding military forces and drones invading countries and killing innocent men, women and children? Or is it the system that is responsible.

Having a tax in the first place is wrong. It's extortion that is legalized.
Having banks in the first place is wrong. It's sharking that is legalized.
When you start thinking from there, you will see how everything else is fucked up.
If roots are BAD, you can't possibly expect anything on that tree that grows, to be good.

The Matrix trilogy is amazing with a lot of metaphors and symbolism (freemasons, mind control, human programming, disobediance) within the movies.

Actually, Matrix is way more deeper than you described it. It's describing past, present and the future, and how the system is indestructible, and how nothing will ever change. You can slow it down, you can cripple it a bit, but it will always restore back, and always continue running, adopting the time it's in. It tells you that the only way to remove the system, it to actually remove the complete system, by awakening everyone. By that, I mean, no money, no borders, no countries. Complete civilization reset, and everything based on something else, that we don't see now. I can think of one and only one scenario in which this can be possible, and that is more my imagination, than possibility, and it's attack by some other race from some other planet, where we as humans have only one chance to unite, or be extinct, but even then, there's 50-50 chance for that. So, when you compare unlimited scenarios where fked up system, have a chance for survival, and one chance for dropping it, it means there is slim, to impossible chance that somehting like that ever goes away.

 

[SJshah]

Having a tax in the first place is wrong. It's extortion that is legalized.
Having banks in the first place is wrong. It's sharking that is legalized.
When you start thinking from there, you will see how everything else is fucked up.
If roots are BAD, you can't possibly expect anything on that tree that grows, to be good.

Exactly. This is an explanation for those of you reading who don't understand:

For instance, if "the bank" had all the money in the world and "the bank" lended you, and only you, $100 million as their only customer. You have to repay that with interest of 5%. That means you will have to pay back $105 million. Where does the other $5 million come from?

Well, thats what is happening right now except banks are lending money to millions of people at a time. The debt will keep increasing and there is no way out.

Banks run the most obvious scam ever created, they do it in plain sight.


They control money, and money controls the world. "Money is the root of all evil" is a popular quote for a reason.

 

[cvrle77]

Of course, but remember we must describe things in a way that other people will understand. Not in a way that will make you sound crazy, otherwise your voice will not be heard.

The Matrix trilogy is amazing with a lot of metaphors and symbolism (freemasons, mind control, human programming, disobediance) within the movies.

Well, it did sound 'crazy' with every conspiracy theory title there is,lol.

On your thoughts about "awakening everyone" - this will not happen.

Yeah, that's what I said in text that follows.

 

[DLow]

I thought Obama just paid the goverment to lock stuff away