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I noticed alot of users on this forum making reports about there accounts won't login or either they get a disconnection message when they try to login to there RDA account or RDP Account

While let me tell y'all the truth most All The RDA providers on this forum whom are selling these RDA/RDP accounts what every they wanted called them are illegal patching up there Windows system in order to allow more then 2 connection has the default is set to only allow 2 concurrent RDP connection on Windows Systems. The only thing that provider tell you is the issue has been fixed nope it hasn't been fixed cause it will continue to happen until that terminal services is fully licensed so you'll continue to get disconnection message and the ability not to be able to login until that terminal service is patched again.

Question Why are they doing this?
A. To remove a limitation in Terminal Services default terminal services only allows the maximum of 2 users to connect at the sametime but when patched up it's allows more then one person to connect.

If nulled WHMCS can't be used then all RDA/RDP providers should provide proof showing they've an actually licenses to allow more then one users to connect to there RDP/RDA server ?

If they don't they'll make them running an illegal operating system cause it's against Microsoft Terms of Services.

Question how much does it cost ?
A. Check for yourself by searching Google.

Price
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...ser-Client-Access-License/productID.216653900
 
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I was under the impression that Terminal Services allowed for multiple Remote connections at once?
We have been looking into offering such a service, Obviously not illegally or "hacked up" like you mention above but using our legitimate licenses of MS:TS.

Or have i missed the boat here and got it completely wrong?

I'm not sure that "Patching" a version of windows to allow multiple connections is exactly in breech of the EULA, Afterall it's not like your adding all the features of Terminal Services by doing it.
 
SeedNet.eu said:
I was under the impression that Terminal Services allowed for multiple Remote connections at once?
We have been looking into offering such a service, Obviously not illegally or "hacked up" like you mention above but using our legitimate licenses of MS:TS.

Or have i missed the boat here and got it completely wrong?

I'm not sure that "Patching" a version of windows to allow multiple connections is exactly in breech of the EULA, Afterall it's not like your adding all the features of Terminal Services by doing it.
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Yeah it does allow mulit users to connect but by default only 2 users are able to connect to that server without a license for it.

If that RDA/RDP provider wanted more then 5 user to connect to that same server they would need to pay $749.00 for a license.
 
Wrong, Robert. Having been experienced with this in the past, here's what happens:

The provider in question installs/enables Remote Desktop Services (formerly known as Terminal Services, so you need to update yourself on the new name) which effectively removes the connection limit. This is the case with Windows 2008 and I can confirm that there is no 'patching' involved at this point. The Remote Desktop Services is activated on a trial license that lasts for 90 days.

Once these 90 days run out, there's 3 options:
- Patch said server to evade the need for installing the license
- Buy a license
- Reinstall your OS all over again to get another 90 day trial

That's where you're correct - most patch it. Some do an OS reinstall. Purchasing the license itself is not worth it for any provider because their services run on a margin so low it would run into a loss if they went legal with this licensing.
 
So in theory, MS has just set themselves up to be "Legally" dodged, Although immoral, You could use a Win2008 R2, 180 Day Trial, and simply reinstall twice a year, With a small HDD keeping users data on a second rendering the service your offering completely legal.
 
Yeah, except professional hosts don't go about the loop of reinstalling their OS, etc. I'm not too well versed on how legal this is, if it is or if it isn't, but yes it is unethical.
 
Robert, I agree with the most parts you said but the part where each license cost that much. It's kinda unrealistic. I've been with 100TB.com and they charge $25 for every 5 connection. That's like $5/connection, except I have to buy in 5 packs.
 
Most "Larger" providers have accounts with MS and pay little to nothing for licenses regardless, We have something like 5 complimentary MTA Keys on pretty much all MS Products as part of our deal, As it stands there not even used as were not offering MS products at the moment so in reality the partnership is void, But my curiosity was pointed at the possibilities, Chances are we would end up paying more than its worth to get into offering RDP's
 
LEVAC109 said:
Robert, I agree with the most parts you said but the part where each license cost that much. It's kinda unrealistic. I've been with 100TB.com and they charge $25 for every 5 connection. That's like $5/connection, except I have to buy in 5 packs.
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The pricing robert pointed out is retail. What 100TB offers is pricing that they get as part of their SPLA agreement with MS. Unfortunately, not every DC has this agreement, so not every DC can give out dirt cheap pricing for these CALs.
 
DuckBre said:
um so whats the point of this topic?
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Disallow sell of cracked/patch Terminal Services on WJ, aka unauthorized RDP connections since nulled WHMCS aren't allow. I see that some even offer "Registered" version of ZOOM. That can be considered as a "premium acc" service. I understand that premium accs aren't allow any longer, so why allowed "cracked" or "patched" ZOOM versions to be allowed? Why not let clients take responsible?
 
What a dumb thread, Nulled WHMCS is known to have backdoors/exploits so unethical/stupid to use, if you cant afford a licence you shouldn't be selling hosting as its most likely you wont last more than 40 days.

Raising Terminal services limit has no security implications so i don't see how it would be compared Wj's WHMCS rule.


I would think the OP has some cheap/free licences so wants to take out some smaller hosts here, why not share how to get wholesale licenced instead.
 
Gavo said:
What a dumb thread, Nulled WHMCS is known to have backdoors/exploits so unethical/stupid to use, if you cant afford a licence you shouldn't be selling hosting as its most likely you wont last more than 40 days.

Raising Terminal services limit has no security implications so i don't see how it would be compared Wj's WHMCS rule.


I would think the OP has some cheap/free licences so wants to take out some smaller hosts here, why not share how to get wholesale licenced instead.
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So, are you saying if an expert webmaster take a nulled WHMCS and can secure it greatly, he should be allowed to use?

I'm not sure about where the OP is really going with this but, I do feel disgusted of the idea where the admins just reinstall the OS just to run their server a bit longer and not caring the data of the users. I said this because if I'm a user of such host, I'll definitely leave.

PS: I'm not sure LT, but if the DC or host provide Win licenses then, chances are they have MS agreement and each RDP connection should cost only $5.

The RDP seller, should not find that hard to implement in the plan price. Such easy solution will prevent them from keep reinstalling the OS every 120 days, or patching the OS.
 
Gavo said:
What a dumb thread, Nulled WHMCS is known to have backdoors/exploits so unethical/stupid to use, if you cant afford a licence you shouldn't be selling hosting as its most likely you wont last more than 40 days.

Raising Terminal services limit has no security implications so i don't see how it would be compared Wj's WHMCS rule.


I would think the OP has some cheap/free licences so wants to take out some smaller hosts here, why not share how to get wholesale licenced instead.
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But your last post suggests that idea. Really, that's the meaning I found.
 
Gavo
This was first brought up by VGNHeart it was never posted public though I just decided to post if for the public to read and understand what most RDP/RDA providers are doing when offering there services for sale on Wjunction.
 
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LEVAC109 said:
Disallow sell of cracked/patch Terminal Services on WJ, aka unauthorized RDP connections since nulled WHMCS aren't allow. I see that some even offer "Registered" version of ZOOM. That can be considered as a "premium acc" service. I understand that premium accs aren't allow any longer, so why allowed "cracked" or "patched" ZOOM versions to be allowed? Why not let clients take responsible?
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really? because i see no point in it, have you ever seen some user complaining about that his provider does use registered terminal licences? i mean really if you ask me this is a troll topic, but hey its fun to read im really enjoying it ;)
 
DuckBre said:
really? because i see no point in it, have you ever seen some user complaining about that his provider does use registered terminal licences? i mean really if you ask me this is a troll topic, but hey its fun to read im really enjoying it ;)
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They do. That's exactly why robert started this thread to explain the cause. If you didn't understand read the simple flow chart.


Unregistered/Patched Terminal License > Unstable RDP Host > Disconnects of RDP Users

You see, people wouldn't say "unregistered terminal licence" !!!! because they're not told of the cause. So they say what's the one the see directly. Without that main root cause, there's wouldn't be any complain about this.

Think beyond the texts.
 
robert420 said:
I noticed alot of users on this forum making reports about there accounts won't login or either they get a disconnection message when they try to login to there RDA account or RDP Account

While let me tell y'all the truth most All The RDA providers on this forum whom are selling these RDA/RDP accounts what every they wanted called them are illegal patching up there Windows system in order to allow more then 2 connection has the default is set to only allow 2 concurrent RDP connection on Windows Systems. The only thing that provider tell you is the issue has been fixed nope it hasn't been fixed cause it will continue to happen until that terminal services is fully licensed so you'll continue to get disconnection message and the ability not to be able to login until that terminal service is patched again.

Question Why are they doing this?
A. To remove a limitation in Terminal Services default terminal services only allows the maximum of 2 users to connect at the sametime but when patched up it's allows more then one person to connect.

If nulled WHMCS can't be used then all RDA/RDP providers should provide proof showing they've an actually licenses to allow more then one users to connect to there RDP/RDA server ?

If they don't they'll make them running an illegal operating system cause it's against Microsoft Terms of Services.

Question how much does it cost ?
A. Check for yourself by searching Google.

Price
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...ser-Client-Access-License/productID.216653900
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Im sure there are some providers that are paying for there license. Not everyone tries to rip shit off.
 
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