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This is an amazing time for the Internet. In the middle of a global recession millions are being invested in new websites. New technologies, standards, frameworks, hardware and ideas are making this the most exciting time to develop, reinvent and launch. New apps, websites, wigits and extensions can go viral and make millions for their developers in a matter of days. Larger companies like Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook have to reinvent themselves and launch new products every few weeks or adapt to new technologies like mobile just to maintain their position.

The story on WJ and in the warez scene in general is unfortunately a different story. The worlds busiest warez site WBB comes from the MySpace era but with little or no development has managed to comfortable maintain it's position as number one. New warez sites are started hourly yet they are all powered by the same Wordpress, WCDDL v2 or worse the now dead and unsupported vBulletin 3 series. Facebook and Google+ are fighting while in the warez world we're all still stuck on MySpace. Looking through a list of the top warez sites you notice a pattern of stale, old repetition so you'd assume it's the ideal opportunity to make an impact.

About two weeks ago I made a topic in a hidden area to try and make a shortlist of the best new websites launched by WJ members in the last year. All the staff and respected members combined couldn't even think of 10 sites less than a year old. That is a scary realization.

Ask yourself when was the last time you saw a new warez site and went wow that's something new or different?

There are some very intelligent people here so push yourself to your limits. Don't verge on the side of caution by launching a standard blog of forum but try something new and different.
 
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Nice question and at the same time tough. Really never saw a warez site which at one glance appeared new and apart frm the rest. And seeing which I said to myseld wow.
 
Webmasters, here are really short sighted
90% webmasters here are afraid to invest money. 100$ is a really big deal here.
Most webmasters crave to start a site themselves without any help, so they buy a vB or IPB license, install the forum, get a nice theme, find some uploaders and that's it.
What they don't realize is that there is nothing unique.


About coders, if they are CS/E students, once they get good (And I mean really good) they will just leave WJ because good engineers are paid more than 50$/hour
That's more than you'd earn on WJ. Also it's hassle free and you get to work in an excellent environment.
 
Does it have to be a file sharing site?

If not so, then I will really vote for http://readthescene.org

I like the way they present all the recent releases and bring up to the people who like to read.

Thanks for this nice thread Happy, much appreciated
 
With no disrespect to LinuxTrance that's like having a moderator or staff member of a warez site.

Going back to the point though even if it's included that's just one site. Just one and nobody can still name a file host linking site which is what most members here have.
 
Simplicity is not the point here, but the concept of doing some thing else other than spamming links is

About file host linking site, it aint like before, when members used to fight to keep the links alive. Remove the paying incentive given by filehosts, you will see some great people sprouting out
 
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Simplicity is not the point here, but the concept of doing some thing else other than spamming links is

About file host linking site, it aint like before, when members used to fight to keep the links alive. Remove the paying incentive given by filehosts, you will see some great people sprouting out
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No, missing the point. Your on about uploaders. You say there'll be great people around if file hosts remove the incentive. If that were to happen they'll still be posting on the same old unimaginative forums they have being for years.

Wether file hosts pay or not has nothing to do with most warez sites all looking old, boring and the same.
 
I have been planning for some thing unique for over a year, but as I am not a coding guy, cant give it a shape

Any way Happy, lets see what others got to say
 
The best website i had seen from WJ Users is HotfileServe.com (Once owned when it used to get very good traffic - http://www.wjunction.com/members/mixloads31/)
I dunno how the admin of the website did seo! But it was very good and the website started getting a lot of traffic just after 2 months

HQ-Uploads.com was also a good site but dead now :(
Other then these i didn't find any other site seeing which i was actually amazed
 
New innovative website/forum = No money in the short term
Making a shit site and submitting to ddls or uploading movies and posting on forums = quick money

It's a simple choice for most people. Everything in warez is about money these days. I guess what people fail to see is that by making a cool website that people would actually want to spend time on, they would make much more of the money they so much desire, in the long term.
 
You of all people should know that warez sites can't be different. By content yes, but by concept, no. - They all serve the same purpose, to provide the content. It can be old or new. But still, it's content. You can change the look of the site, to have a movie poster in one div, the other screencap, download links, streaming option, etc, etc. Tons of options, and it won't be any different than an average warez site.

You can try and make a multi site, where users can register, add stuff to their watchlist, get notified if the episode gets available - and bunch of other stuff, but it definitely won't be an innovation as other webmasters already did the same thing. Do you see their sites go viral? Nope, people like to keep it simple.

Most of them stick to already established sites, some go for the torrent option. But the fact is that hardly anyone will give a chance to a new site. Of course, unless it's a big project, backed up by some large network.
 
I was only active on NinjaWarez. It was the best Warez forum out there, end of discussion. Staff was great, it brought many new stuff on table (and then people copied them right after). Not to mention high quality downloads.

It was different in almost every view. Yes same downloads but posting rules were very strict and forum was super active.
 
You of all people should know that warez sites can't be different. By content yes, but by concept, no. - They all serve the same purpose, to provide the content. It can be old or new. But still, it's content. You can change the look of the site, to have a movie poster in one div, the other screencap, download links, streaming option, etc, etc. Tons of options, and it won't be any different than an average warez site.
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OK the content is all download links with info. That's true. But that doesn't mean all warez sites have to be the same or you "won't be any different". Take youtube. At it's core it streams videos but their are hundreds of sites that do this and they all do it differently. Same for any site that sells music. You can't say iTunes is exactly the same as every other site that sells music. Taking my earlier example of MySpace, Facebook and G+. Yes they are on a different scale and have larger teams but the concept is still the same. They are all social networks but all completely different. The concept, as you call it, is the same.
You can try and make a multi site, where users can register, add stuff to their watchlist, get notified if the episode gets available - and bunch of other stuff, but it definitely won't be an innovation as other webmasters already did the same thing. Do you see their sites go viral? Nope, people like to keep it simple.
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I'll use Spotify as an example. All that does is stream music which has being done hundreds of times before but it's not the same "pattern of stale, old repetition" that you find with warez sites. Spotify has the same "concept" and even the same "content" that's being done before but has that wow I was on about. You can take something like music streaming and re-invent it. You can take something like warez and re-invent it. It just needs imagination something I don't see a lot of in warez.

Here is one examples where you could take an existing warez site, same content and bring new life to it. Create a Google chrome extension. As your browsing the web you see a movie trailer on Youtube so you click on your extension and it popup's search results from your warez site. It doesn't have to be a trailer. Press release, imdb page, anything just right click the name. If none exist then you can click "notify me" and as soon as a CAM, TS, or DVD (which ever quality you select) is released or posted on the warez site you see that notification in your chrome extension exactly the same way you see an email notification on the gmail plugin for example.

That's just an example of one way you can take a warez site and innovate. I'm not saying it would work traffic wise or catch on but it's something new and different and has wow.
 
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People only make warez site for the money.. so they dont care how bad it looks. they only care about how money their gonna be putting in their pocket
 
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