Latest Announcemnent
New thread

Hetzner DMCA storage question

M

movieplatform

Member
9
2026
1
220
Hello guys,

We have this scenario:

- Hetzner dedicated server storing movies/shows
- Proxy servers
- End client

End client connects to the proxy servers requesting the media, proxy servers are requesting the data from hetzner and serves it to end client,
in this scenario hetzner server(s) are never exposed to the end client, they cannot know the storage server(s)

so the question is: without end client knowing the hetzner servers, could I bypass the Hetzner TOS and keep piracy(maybe) if nobody reports, they cannot know, right?
 
18 comments
Yes, it should work.

But the routing/peering should be good between Hetzner and your proxy, and the proxy needs to be stable. Offshore hosting is mostly not stable. They are constantly being attacked or have very bad peering.

So if you plan to "stream" for your customers, your proxies need at least a 10 Gbps connection to serve the traffic to your Hetzner servers.

Hetzner will never notice anything because abuse will go to the proxy.

The best way is to load balance, use several proxies.
 
noc_zetsu said:
Yes, it should work.

But the routing/peering should be good between Hetzner and your proxy, and the proxy needs to be stable. Offshore hosting is mostly not stable. They are constantly being attacked or have very bad peering.

So if you plan to "stream" for your customers, your proxies need at least a 10 Gbps connection to serve the traffic to your Hetzner servers.

Hetzner will never notice anything because abuse will go to the proxy.

The best way is to load balance, use several proxies.
Click to expand...
How much do several proxies cost? 10 gbps
 
name69 said:
How much do several proxies cost? 10 gbps
Click to expand...

Well, a proxy server could be on every machine, so on every basic 10 Gb/s private server you can build a reverse proxy with nginx's help or building it by yourself

noc_zetsu said:
Yes, it should work.

But the routing/peering should be good between Hetzner and your proxy, and the proxy needs to be stable. Offshore hosting is mostly not stable. They are constantly being attacked or have very bad peering.

So if you plan to "stream" for your customers, your proxies need at least a 10 Gbps connection to serve the traffic to your Hetzner servers.

Hetzner will never notice anything because abuse will go to the proxy.

The best way is to load balance, use several proxies.
Click to expand...

I'm thinking to build my own CDN, so the load balance will be fixed, the most important thing is that I need to find good providers that are not scared of DMCA reports, and they close my account.
 
Do not use Hetzner. They are worst and take your files down. Use smaller host companies which have single owner and do not care about DMCA.
 
VIDS.ST said:
Do not use Hetzner. They are worst and take your files down. Use smaller host companies which have single owner and do not care about DMCA.
Click to expand...
Well, alright, but can you explain more why you think using Hetzner as storage behind proxies isn't a good idea? I understand that they care about DMCA, and they delete files because of it, but if they're behind proxies they should never get reports so in the end, they will never know what files they're serving, right? Or did you try something like this and it failed?
noc_zetsu said:
One of the shitty hosts out there.
Never trust any offshore hosting with your projects.

Always use those garbage hosters only as proxy, not more.

Always use secure datacenters like hetzner, leaseweb and so on.
Click to expand...
For the proxies, I could use anything and host anywhere, even in OVH, because the most important thing is to keep safe the main database which is Hetzner, the rest are just walls.

If one server goes down, I get a new one, download git repository and the script does everything, integrate in database, allow firewall on Hetzner, etc...
 
zakservers said:
We can offer you 10gbps servers in Switzerland which you can setup as reverse proxy servers.

You can view the available configurations here, and also can contact with sales for a custom quotation: https://www.zakservers.com/offshore-dedicated-servers.php
Click to expand...
Thank you,

But for now what I have in plan is to keep the platform ads free and give to users the Netflix's comfort, and maybe I will not introduce ads ever, if the business model will work, I will take in consideration your offers.
 
Yes , this is what I also do.

Visitor / reporter -> proxy -> hidden wordpress site (nobody knows)

So all reports go-to Cloudflare -> to proxy host .

One thing you need to make sure it block all external traffic to the hidden server that doesn't contain your hidden header key.

That way even bots wont find it. You will have peace of mind as long as you dont mention that hidden server anywhere .
 
You’re thinking in the right direction technically, but this isn’t as “invisible” as it sounds.
Even behind proxies, traffic patterns, abuse reports, or upstream complaints can still trace back especially if content gets flagged at scale. Providers don’t rely only on direct reports to IPs. Proxies help reduce exposure, but they don’t magically bypass TOS you’re just adding a layer, not removing liability. If something gets enough attention, it usually catches up eventually, regardless of how well it’s hidden.
 
noc_zetsu said:
After not even two weeks of uptime with Alexhost, he woke up one morning, tried to log into his Windows dedicated server, only to discover that someone else had logged into the server and quickly transferred those 4,000 euros out of his wallet.

Is that a coincidence? Hardly. Because I'm 100% certain that my colleague was neither hacked nor caught any viruses. Very unlikely on his MacBook with a fresh password on the Alexhost account and a fresh email.
Click to expand...

Regarding that, we never log to any client without his permission for that.
We have more than 10.000 customers actively, do you think we can monitor each one? We can't, is not possible at all.

However. Alexhost never was bulletproof and never was advertised as Bulletproof. Alexhost always obey to local laws where the servers are.

This means:

  • When we get a valid court order, police request or goverment request where the servers are, we must obey and we will obey including local authorities.
  • We aren't considered offshore, we obey to local laws and what they allow or not allow.
  • We AREN'T BULLETPROOF, we refuse that, we refute that, we aren't one. We obey to legal requests if they are legal and our lawyer will verify for such requests with the abuse department.
  • Even if people claims that, you should never trust at all. Always verify first with the hosting provider directly.
  • We don't log to VPS or Servers of customers, without their request through support.

I don't know what you friend did or do in his servers. But for sure, he got compromised in some way. Even if the password is strong, it doesn't prevent that the VPS is fully secured. Did he disabled SSH Login with root at least? The server management and responsability is from customer, not from us. The security, password and others also.

Besides that, you should try by yourself our services. Maybe you change your idea. And of course other hosting providers that you mention reached their limit, not only for that, but because people always use them for such things.

DMCA is different of IP Copyright Infringement, just in case. Bulletproof is different than being offshore. There are legal differences between them.
 
Wego4Nulled said:
Regarding that, we never log to any client without his permission for that.
We have more than 10.000 customers actively, do you think we can monitor each one? We can't, is not possible at all.

However. Alexhost never was bulletproof and never was advertised as Bulletproof. Alexhost always obey to local laws where the servers are.

This means:

  • When we get a valid court order, police request or goverment request where the servers are, we must obey and we will obey including local authorities.
  • We aren't considered offshore, we obey to local laws and what they allow or not allow.
  • We AREN'T BULLETPROOF, we refuse that, we refute that, we aren't one. We obey to legal requests if they are legal and our lawyer will verify for such requests with the abuse department.
  • Even if people claims that, you should never trust at all. Always verify first with the hosting provider directly.
  • We don't log to VPS or Servers of customers, without their request through support.

I don't know what you friend did or do in his servers. But for sure, he got compromised in some way. Even if the password is strong, it doesn't prevent that the VPS is fully secured. Did he disabled SSH Login with root at least? The server management and responsability is from customer, not from us. The security, password and others also.

Besides that, you should try by yourself our services. Maybe you change your idea. And of course other hosting providers that you mention reached their limit, not only for that, but because people always use them for such things.

DMCA is different of IP Copyright Infringement, just in case. Bulletproof is different than being offshore. There are legal differences between them.
Click to expand...

There is your real face. You also managed to remove the post here, which I did. You know what, let's play a game. Should I spread the information across all of social media, like Reddit, Trustpilot, and so on? There we see your real face. The only thing Alexhost is able to do is just remove feedback from paying customers. Maybe you can have this deleted here, but you won't be able to delete it from everywhere on the internet. WebHostingTalk, LowEndTalk, Reddit, there are so many channels, and I think many people will be happy to hear about this. I will make sure that everyone knows that your infrastructure is not safe and you steal money from your customers. :)
 
Alexhost, hostcay
A well-known provider in Eastern Europe, which owns its own data centers and is known for ignoring arbitrary removal requests.
I've been dealing with them for a long time and there haven't been any problems.
 
thank you
Post automatically merged:

toty said:
Alexhost, hostcay
A well-known provider in Eastern Europe, which owns its own data centers and is known for ignoring arbitrary removal requests.
I've been dealing with them for a long time and there haven't been any problems.
Click to expand...
what site did you hosted with them?
 
Last edited:
Back
Top