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Ok, So i had this idea for long partly because seeing the so many scam calling cases here.


First of all what i am going to suggest isnt like Premium membership so hear it out, before comparing this thread to :
http://www.wjunction.com/6-feedback-suggestions/155514-wj-paid-membership.html
http://www.wjunction.com/6-feedback-suggestions/141152-wjunction-paid-membership.html




So a way to eliminate the trust issues with people selling services on WJ (Like WebDevelopment, WebDesigning, WebHosting, Cloud Storage etc etc),
To introduce a new verification system.


WJ already does this for FileHosts under 'Affiliate Representative' usergroup.
I suggest to extend this group under the banner 'Verified Member' no extra features from regular members except a text or a image for them.


To become a verified member, WJ should let staff inspect the details of the business the user is a representative of.
Like Incorporation Document or something that can be easily verified from Govt Websites
and a phone number (verified via an automated call - so no details are kept on WJ)


This would revolutionize the WJ Marketplace, by giving user a list of Verified Member selling services without worrying of scam.
Or in case of a scam the user who bought services have details of the business and can file a lawsuit or a FIR against the business.


This would limit the fly-by-night businesses(Including Cloud Storage Providers) doing trade on WJ.

Lets start the debate on it.
 
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I dont see how people would fake the incorporation documents on a govt website ?,
Nearly all government around the globe puts the company information in public portals for verification purposes.

The call would speak some characters / numbers that needs to be entered by a user, there is a high chance of someone faking it but with point #1 you will be pretty much sure.
 
I'm with you ServerPolice, details can be verified from Govt. websites easily, they can't be fake in any manner :) or there can be other ways to do such things for verified and trusted business :friends:
 
But, There are many other service providers here who are not verified by government but are actually reputed and doing a good job! idk it's confusing for me :P but still a nice idea though!
 
But, There are many other service providers here who are not verified by government but are actually reputed and doing a good job! idk it's confusing for me :P but still a nice idea though!

In my opinion if a business is doing a good job, he must be atleast filing income tax under self-proprietorship and registered for service tax.
 
On the surface it's a great idea for users, but in the long run it's bad.

If WJunction has a "verified member" who turns around and scams one day, WJunction is on the hook; "I wouldn't have bought from that guy if the site didn't say he was trusted!"
 
On the surface it's a great idea for users, but in the long run it's bad.

If WJunction has a "verified member" who turns around and scams one day, WJunction is on the hook; "I wouldn't have bought from that guy if the site didn't say he was trusted!"

Well yes, there is a possibility of that .., but the reason we are asking for govt proof is that we have a legal background of him.
Real name, his business name, his contact information .., it doesn't take much to file a police complaint or a get him a court summon.

By "Verified Seller" WJ wont vouch for the seller, instead it would simply mean that Identity of the seller has been verified.
 
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I like this idea a lot.
@ChemicalX, If it's a "verified seller" like SP suggest so they won't need to have gov docs.

imho to get the "verified seller" status there should be a few a things the seller need to complete, how about 3 vouches from 3 WJ members including at least 1 respected or staff member here on wj or maybe at least 1 person who bought service from that seller or.. throw an idea.

I think this is a good way to put good service people in the spotlight VIA wj and something for the service people to strive to.
 
I like this idea a lot.
@ChemicalX, If it's a "verified seller" like SP suggest so they won't need to have gov docs.

imho to get the "verified seller" status there should be a few a things the seller need to complete, how about 3 vouches from 3 WJ members including at least 1 respected or staff member here on wj or maybe at least 1 person who bought service from that seller or.. throw an idea.

I think this is a good way to put good service people in the spotlight VIA wj and something for the service people to strive to.

No way! Anyone can get verified this way. SP's method is way better.
 
No way! Anyone can get verified this way. SP's method is way better.

Uhmmm this is just a suggestion of how to do a verification, yes SP method is very good but not everyone can do it that way.
Another idea is to have levels of verified like lowest level will be verified VIA people of the community, higher level will be via people of the community and staff of wj and highest level will be like SP suggested and all the before mentioned.

I think the argue is about having or not having such a thing on wjuncton and not on how to get the verified status, I think a decision about this should be made by staff and than debate the "How to do it".
 
Well to be honest, having multiple levels would just confuse the buyers,

The addition to what i suggested can be that member should be 6 months old member of WJ, and can get vouches from 10members, 2 respected members and 1 staff.

But for now i think verifying company information from govt portal and a phone number check would suffice.

Also, as said by Gosh, the staff should first decide if we should implement a new group and then discuss on the potential verification methods.

No way! Anyone can get verified this way. SP's method is way better.

Uhmmm this is just a suggestion of how to do a verification, yes SP method is very good but not everyone can do it that way.
Another idea is to have levels of verified like lowest level will be verified VIA people of the community, higher level will be via people of the community and staff of wj and highest level will be like SP suggested and all the before mentioned.

I think the argue is about having or not having such a thing on wjuncton and not on how to get the verified status, I think a decision about this should be made by staff and than debate the "How to do it".
 
The best would be this , If WJ starts it's payment processing service, and all buy and sell on WJ must go through WJ gateway only.

In this Way the chances of getting scam will be less, and if the seller tries to do anything bad , WJ can reverse the Payment and can Ban the subscription of the seller .

Though It's not easy to start a payment processing gateway, but if it's done it would be really great. What you guys say?

Regards
 
Payment Processing units aren't just a piece of cake to start up you have to go through various regulations from the federal government as well as other authorities to become a money trading authority.

WJ isn't a company with a legal headquarters for consumer complaints or relations to support the payment processor plan.

Multiple levels is not a good idea on a big scale two levels if planned are enough.

1. Vouching Level (Staff + Respected)
2. Govt Authorized

Vouched members would be limited to trade in a single area. Keeping in mind that the person who has vouched or WJ doesn't hold any responsibility towards the sale or any scam which has happened to or by.

Govt authorized members would be limited to trade in a single area. Same WJ wouldn't hold any responsibility. If a member of the Govt Authorized group scams a user a public thread can be (suggestion) made revealing the govt documents or information about the seller to the buyer to issue legal notice or take any legal actions towards the seller. And a public mention can be made that (XYZ Seller - With Tax number) is a scammer.

All together it is a lengthy process but a great process to manage the marketplace and allowing physical goods like servers / Hardware / Electronics to be shipped out even from WJ

I am all go for this marketplace change the question here is WJ and its members ready to accept this change.
 
Verifying a business is registered correctly or having an automated call is time consuming and who's to say that the business that we "verified" isn't going to scam? I don't think anyone would file a lawsuit or FIR against a registered business under a mere $100. As UltimA said, it won't look good on our site if someone verified did a runner.


I would recommend using the iTrader system which we have already implemented, depending on their iTrader score you'll know how trusted they are.


We do need to expand the marketplace, but not in this way by introducing a "verified" group.
 
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